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kingofamberley 02-08-2013 10:54 AM

Tied up some clousers last night
 
Buck tail variety pack turned out to be a great idea!
Started with some classic chart/white:
http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1673d02a.jpg
Then tried some shad looking patterns:
http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/...pse8144960.jpg
A sort of leach looking pattern:
http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/...psb0065aff.jpg
Good ol' firetiger:
http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/...pseeaf0bd7.jpg
"Brazillian" shiner :D
http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3c22fbb0.jpg
Creek chub:
http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/...ps97fc64db.jpg
"Rasta Darter" :p
http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/...psd4a39991.jpg
http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/...ps138f88e0.jpg
Can't wait for spring!

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By the way, thank you Diver Dan for the tip about putting down some head cement before wrapping up the head :)

stl_geoff 02-08-2013 11:18 AM

Re: Tied up some clousers last night
 
Good deal, I tied one for when I was in Florida, i ended up calling it the "key West Clouser". its a rainbow in the literal sense of a fly being a rainbow. AJ approved.

kingofamberley 02-11-2013 12:03 PM

Re: Tied up some clousers last night
 
Thanks :)
My main concern is that they may be a little bit long for the hooks I used (Gamakatsu SC15's, size 1, recommended to me at the fly shop). I have read however that bass key in on the head/eye, so it may not even be a problem. I have some TMC 300's in size 6 leftover from some wooly buggers that I'm thinking of trying next, maybe with bead chain eyes. I will resist tying more though until I can test them out against some river smallies :D

Guest1 02-11-2013 12:57 PM

Re: Tied up some clousers last night
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kingofamberley (Post 524815)
By the way, thank you Diver Dan for the tip about putting down some head cement before wrapping up the head :)

You are welcome! Those Firetiger Clousers are a great fly, glad to see you made some of those also. Actually, Clousers in general are a great fly. Good job on those. :thumbsupu

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kingofamberley (Post 525755)
Thanks :)
My main concern is that they may be a little bit long for the hooks I used (Gamakatsu SC15's, size 1, recommended to me at the fly shop). :D

I would not worry to much about it. Fish tend to gulp the whole fly when taking minnow type patterns. Try them out and see how they ride in the water. The main problem I have had with hooks and Clousers is to heavy wire for not enough weight in the eyes. There is a point where they stop riding right in the water.

Also, if you fish a spot where you hang up a lot like I do, use a thinner wire hook you can bend out and free. I use #2 Aberdeens and bend the eye down. The down eye helps make them ride right way up, plus the wire is thin enough to pull loose if you hang up in crud on the bottom.

You should see the crud I have dragged up off the bottom by the way. Do you think it's lucky if you drag up a horse shoe?
http://www.theflyfishingforum.com/fo...horse-shoe.jpg

mcnerney 02-11-2013 02:33 PM

Re: Tied up some clousers last night
 
Great looking Clousers! Now go out and slay some fish.

kingofamberley 02-11-2013 06:00 PM

Re: Tied up some clousers last night
 
Trust me, I cannot wait to slay some fish! Last several trips out were skunks though, so I'm just waiting on spring at this point.
@Dan, I do believe that horse shoe is good luck! That is the most beautiful rod by the way. I bet a spey rod tosses clousers like nothing. I've been a spin fisherman my whole life, but I had never even heard of spey before a few months ago when I started getting more interested in fly fishing and doing my research.

theboz 02-12-2013 07:39 PM

Re: Tied up some clousers last night
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Diver Dan (Post 525768)
You are welcome! Those Firetiger Clousers are a great fly, glad to see you made some of those also. Actually, Clousers in general are a great fly. Good job on those. :thumbsupu

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I would not worry to much about it. Fish tend to gulp the whole fly when taking minnow type patterns. Try them out and see how they ride in the water. The main problem I have had with hooks and Clousers is to heavy wire for not enough weight in the eyes. There is a point where they stop riding right in the
Also, if you fish a spot where you hang up a lot like I do, use a thinner wire hook you can bend out and free. I use #2 Aberdeens and bend the eye down. The down eye helps make them ride right way up, plus the wire is thin enough to pull loose if you hang up in crud on the bottom.

You should see the crud I have dragged up off the bottom by the way. Do you think it's lucky if you drag up a horse shoe?
http://www.theflyfishingforum.com/fo...horse-shoe.jpg

.Luckily the horse was no longer attached!!

bigjim5589 02-12-2013 10:16 PM

Re: Tied up some clousers last night
 
Kingo, your Clousers look good! I like the color choices! Agree with Dan about the lengths, Smallmouths will engulf them, so that won't likely be an issue.

One suggestion, tie some with lighter weight eyes, (bead chain works too) and move the eyes back away from the hook eye a little more on some of them. The lighter eyes will not sink as fast, which is not a bad thing sometimes, plus the jigging motion will be less pronounced. With the eyes set back a bit more (I try to go about 1/3 the shank length or slightly more) the result will be more of a gliding action, more like a standard streamer, yet the hook will still be point up and with some less pronounced jigging motion.

There's nothing wrong with what you have, but once the weight is there, if it's not working for you, and they're all tied with the same weight, there's not much you can change on the water. Variety is good! :)

I had learned this on my own, and later read Clousers book, which suggests the same. Clousers are excellent Smallmouth flies, but some slight adjustments can give different appearances to the same style, which is good to have available when you need it.

Here's a couple I tied, and have posted previously. Notice the eye size & position relative to the rest of the fly. These are tied on size 1 Daiichi worm hooks.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...9/100_4521.jpg

kingofamberley 02-14-2013 10:22 AM

Re: Tied up some clousers last night
 
Thanks for the tips! I picked up a bead chain on the way home from work yesterday and tied these up last night, using some leftover size 6 TMC 300 hooks. I should have just tied one, waited for the cement to dry, and tested it in the water before tying more as Dan said, but I couldn't help myself once I started. If nothing else its good practice. http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/...psc98b7960.jpg
I also found that putting a few strands of black bucktail in with the flash makes for a more pronounced lateral line, which may be more for me than the fish :)

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As sort of an afterthought on this one, I added a few short strands of orange on the bottom for a throat, as I have seen on a lot of my favorite stick baits for spin fishing. I theorize that it may also deepen the bait's profile in the water a little. I will be sure to post if it actually does anything to help though :)
http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/...ps62331fe2.jpg

Guest1 02-14-2013 10:33 AM

Re: Tied up some clousers last night
 
The orange in the throat couldn't hurt. :thumbsup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by theboz (Post 526215)
.Luckily the horse was no longer attached!!

It still had the nails in it though. Makes you wonder. :confused: They had a fire that burned the whole town down in 1910. I think they just shoved a lot of the wreckage into the river where I fish a lot. I've pulled up some odd stuff.


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