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Old 03-26-2013, 01:24 PM
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If you are just going to use them for wire forget the expensive ceramic, save that for your threads, use the cheap steel tubes for wire or lead.
This is where I get confused. Dave McPhail said ceramic tube is important for wire, but you say it isn't.

Does he have some kind of agenda to sell more Tiemci bobbins?
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Far be it from me to trump Mcphail's tying expertise but what exactly was his reasoning. Is he trying to protect the wire from breaking? Or is he trying stop the damage the wire might do to the tube. If he's trying to protect the bobbin why would it matter if your using a cheap steel tube bobbin, it would take eons to ware through it enough to effect anything. I'm certain they wouldn't be useful for thread after using them for wire but I have no intention on using them for thread.
I have a few different cheap ones for various oft used wires and a few ceramics for the threads.
An for the what it's worth category, I'm a fan of the Tiemco bobbins also.
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Maybe it's just me but I can't think of too many instances where I bother using a bobbin for wire, not even when tying Sawyer's or Copper Johns. For the most part, I cut a length and use it.
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I have a supply of steel recorder wire I picked up at a yard sale. It's very fine but very stiff. I spooled a bit onto an old thread spool and that wire needs a threader for sure. If you try to pull this wire straight with your fingers, you'll get cut.
My threaders are both home made from old guitar strings. One has a dowel handle the other has a big red plastic bead. Handles and wire connected with JB Weld.
I also have a cheap steel tube bobbin that I "fixed" by JB-ing a glass bead into the end. Imposible to suck start. Have to use a threader.
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Far be it from me to trump Mcphail's tying expertise but what exactly was his reasoning. Is he trying to protect the wire from breaking? Or is he trying stop the damage the wire might do to the tube. If he's trying to protect the bobbin why would it matter if your using a cheap steel tube bobbin, it would take eons to ware through it enough to effect anything. I'm certain they wouldn't be useful for thread after using them for wire but I have no intention on using them for thread.
I have a few different cheap ones for various oft used wires and a few ceramics for the threads.
An for the what it's worth category, I'm a fan of the Tiemco bobbins also.
I think he was trying to protect the wire from breaking.
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I've never had a problem breaking wire because of the bobbin, I know I wouldn't buy a ceramic tube for that either. Not to say you shouldn't, just my opinion.

To answer stimmy7, I use it on bobbins because when I cut what I need off the spool I always cut too much, I end up wasting a third of every spool. Not a huge cost but just one of those things that bugs me. I find it very good for applying the lead on the shank for weighted nymphs.
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my typical MO is to either cut off what I know will work (based on past experience) or 2x that amount, then use the balance on fly #2... I generally make a SWAG, but it's pretty close! And when I use copper wire, not too concerned about what I waste...

I buy (or get free) old sets of Christmas lights, cut the wire between the bulb holders, loosely coil up the wire sections and put a twist tie around them to hold them together. You can strip off half the coating on an section when you start tying anything that needs wire. The remaining coating holds the balance of the wire "in the sheath" until you need another piece. One 25' set of lights gives me a minimum of a couple of years of wire.
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my typical MO is to either cut off what I know will work (based on past experience) or 2x that amount, then use the balance on fly #2... I generally make a SWAG, but it's pretty close! And when I use copper wire, not too concerned about what I waste...

I buy (or get free) old sets of Christmas lights, cut the wire between the bulb holders, loosely coil up the wire sections and put a twist tie around them to hold them together. You can strip off half the coating on an section when you start tying anything that needs wire. The remaining coating holds the balance of the wire "in the sheath" until you need another piece. One 25' set of lights gives me a minimum of a couple of years of wire.
That is genius. I know I have old Christmas lights lying around somewhere. Thanks for that neat tip.
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I have a set in the basement that I found to be NG this past xmas, thanks for the tip.
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