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Old 05-02-2013, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: Any headache saving tips for a new tyer? (besides don't start the addiction)

Others have mentioned some good advice. I'll add some other points.
  • Buy 100 packs in commonly used hooks and beads. Besides saving you money, you will save time by not having to make additional runs to the shop.
  • You do not have to limit yourself to fly shops for materials. Craft stores make great material shops.
  • You can always recycle old hooks to make new flies.
  • Whenever you are finished using a feather pelt, make sure to seal it up in its ziplock bag right away. Bugs can make a $100 saddle worthless.

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Default Re: Any headache saving tips for a new tyer? (besides don't start the addiction)

Thanks to all who offered tips and advice. I picked up a vise, some tools and a few materials today. I am off on what will be a life-long journey of education and relaxation mixed with a healthy dose of frustration. I'll post up pics of my first attempts. Please do not censor yourselves in critiquing. I have a thick skin and I'm eager to learn.
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Default Re: Any headache saving tips for a new tyer? (besides don't start the addiction)

As a self taught tier for the past 25 years, my suggestions would be:

1) Buy a few good tying books, I saw a suggestion or two earlier in this thread.
2) Agree with the U-tube suggestion, some VERY helpful videos.
3) Start with a few simple flies and master them first. Wooly bugger is a great starter fly, it involves several techniques you'll use a lot (and its an effective fly). Pheasant tail nymph and hares ear nymph are others. Start with the materials you need to tie those flies.
4) Buy good tools. A Peak vice would be great (although there are adequate vices for $50-100), I saw Anvil and Dr. Slick mentioned for scissors, they are great. Get a few good bobbins, a bodkin, hackle pliers, tweezers, etc.
5) Recognize it will take time, you will continue to improve for as long as you tie. I get great satisfaction from the fact that even after 25 years and thousands of flies I believe I am still improving.
6) Enjoy it, tying is a fantastic hobby, it will help your fishing tremendously if you stick with it and you may, like me, get great satisfaction giving flies to your fishing friends as gifts.

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Advil. And that's about it. No matter how well you prepare...read books....and Utube it. Plain old trial and error will be the best teacher.

But most importantly never lose the fun aspect. No matter how difficult it may be just keep at it. Wooly Buggers are a great fly to gain confidence with. Everything eats them and once you get the pattern down its easy to change it up.

Get the fly down first before you start trying to get creative too. I started by picking 5 flys. The best 5 for my area. (Lots of asking around) And all I tied were those flys. Nothing else. Then I tweaked them till they worked even better for the way I fished. Only then did I move on.

I chose 3 other types of flys and repeated the process. If one pattern was getting the best of me I made sure I could switch to another pattern. Or just go back to an old faithful.

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Default Re: Any headache saving tips for a new tyer? (besides don't start the addiction)

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I've been Tying for Quite a few years now The Best Tips I can give are:
Start Tying The easy Common Patterns you need as it's no use having a Box of Flies you won't use then progress onto The Harder Flies.
Also Go to You -Tube & watch Davie McPhail you will pick up some good tips & how to Tie heaps of Patterns.
As mentioned The Woolly Bugger is a Good All Round Fly & isn't that difficult to Tie.
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It may just be me, but I find the videos available on the 'net, on the whole, more useful than books. As with anything else, there are good books/videos and not so good ones. Hopefully you find something you like.

As others have said, the best bit of advice I can give you, avoid the urge to tie one or two flies of a couple dozen different patterns. From a learning perspective, I think you are much better off to tie a dozen or two of the same pattern/ same size. This really helps you to develop an eye for proportions. Once you develop some basic techniques and a feel for proportions, most everything else just falls in place.

Of course, what you end up doing with 24 copies of the same fly is a whole different concern.
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Default Re: Any headache saving tips for a new tyer? (besides don't start the addiction)

buy or make some cobblers wax. use it on your thread to secure materials with two wraps, no more.
Count your thread wraps - use the minimum.

THe biggest mistake beginners make is using half a spool of thread for a size 14 wet fly....

most of all, enjoy it, because if its not fun, you wont stick at it.
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Thanks to all who offered tips and advice. I picked up a vise, some tools and a few materials today. I am off on what will be a life-long journey of education and relaxation mixed with a healthy dose of frustration. I'll post up pics of my first attempts. Please do not censor yourselves in critiquing. I have a thick skin and I'm eager to learn.
I just love to see these type of posts!

You have the proper attitude and are quite correct about this whole thing being a life long education. I've been at this for a while and although I never really 'mastered' tying flies, I've found the intrinsic value of a fly by creating them. There are other things that can deliver an equal feeling of accomplishment; wood working and many other crafts come to mind. However, fly tying connects at a much more intimate lever to another life long pursuit than some others perhaps and that is sitting along a beautiful trout stream with a totally blank mind. No worries, no stress, just you and the sights and sounds.

I'll be watching for your postings of the flies.

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I agree with Craven's book and Google "how to tie a -----" select the video option.
Craven's book progresses from easier to more advanced flies. By the time that you have finished his book you have used most techniques in tying.
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