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random user 06-02-2013 12:32 PM

Leprechaun's Hat Fly
 
Short story long.... Trying to learn to work effectively with colors and a style of fly to which I am very unaccustomed. For reference it's tied on a #1 Mustad 34007. No reason to hold back with the 2X4 o' Enlightenment.

This is round 2 of the idea. Looking for critiques, ideas and suggestions for it. Fly is a bit more symetrical than the images show. The stick-on adhesive eyes need some work. Not so concerned about the crinkly flash. I don't think it is quiet finished / right yet. Any ideas or suggestions?

Anyone have experience with splayed wings like these, or is a folly I pursue alone?

http://www.theflyfishingforum.com/fo...haun1a-900.jpg
http://www.theflyfishingforum.com/fo...haun1b-900.jpg
http://www.theflyfishingforum.com/fo...haun1c-900.jpg
http://www.theflyfishingforum.com/fo...haun1d-900.jpg

Thanks much.

fredaevans 06-02-2013 12:38 PM

Re: Leprechaun's Hat Fly
 
Now that is totally unique. Have no idea how to tell you how to improve, but as done above, a hell of a winter Steelhead fly?

fae

bigjim5589 06-02-2013 01:06 PM

Re: Leprechaun's Hat Fly
 
You're not alone with the splayed hackle wings. Tied to the rear of the hook, it would be similar to a Keys style Tarpon fly. Perhaps a bit over-dressed as such, but similar. Sometimes there is purpose in an over-dressed pattern. It should push a bit more water, and unless heavily weighted, sink at a very slow rate. Both attributes can be desirable sometimes. Such gaudy color could be great for off color, slightly muddy water.

Personally, I prefer matched hackles, usually at least 3 per side. If you lose a hackle from either side it loses some balance. A grizzly as the outer hackle, dyed or natural can add a lot of visual appeal too.

IMO, it would be a good bass fly, even in that color combination. Would certainly work as is for Seatrout & Redfish, Flounder & many other species.

I like it! :D

random user 06-03-2013 07:19 AM

Re: Leprechaun's Hat Fly
 
Thanks much.

Am tying these for warm water / bass family and perch. For me it easier to experiment on larger hooks. Don't know much about steelies, but I'd be willing to mail out a few to someone who wants to throw them at winter steelies.

It's dense intentionally, to keep it high in the water column. Looking at a bowl-lake that is 10"or less for a good ways off the shore and these broad edges are covered with weed beds.

The splayed wings cause the fly to have a weird motion on a retrieve or in a current - looks sort of wounded / dazed and confused kind of motions and they tend to flutter in unison to current pressure changes. Have done the same thing with clousers and buggers with some success.

Going to tie up a couple more versions, olive over yellow and purple over black and see what happens with them.

Did tie one up with a stacked marabou wing instead of the kip, and I didn't like it so much, but it is going to see some time the water.

I think I might be on to something, but then again I have thought that about many experiments which didn't really evolve into much.

mcnerney 06-03-2013 08:12 AM

Re: Leprechaun's Hat Fly
 
Sweet looking fly, I can imagine that it will definitely move some water, would be interesting to see how it behaves on the retrieve, certainly looks like it would move some big trout.........nice work!

fredaevans 06-03-2013 01:27 PM

Re: Leprechaun's Hat Fly
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mcnerney (Post 561519)
Sweet looking fly, I can imagine that it will definitely move some water, would be interesting to see how it behaves on the retrieve, certainly looks like it would move some big trout.........nice work!


Larry brings up a heck of a good point, which few folks actually 'test' in moving water. Take a short rod (mono line is just fine) and a heavy lead shot of some sort to sink the thing. Just let out a few feet of line in current and see how it runs. Bad news is a lot of these things will actually 'spin,' for a lack of a better term, because they're 'off balance.'

Not a good thing!

If you gear fish, with 'plugs,' the first thing you're likely to read is 'test it in moving water and adjust the eye ring at the front to get 'it' to run true. No different than a 'junk on bunk' home tie.

fae

random user 06-03-2013 01:39 PM

Re: Leprechaun's Hat Fly
 
Stopped pouring here so I am heading out to try them.

first thing I did was modify a leader to carry a small barrel swivel. (Lesson learn from throwing 'cat toys' at river run smallies.)

-- later that same day --

They ride well in the water, a little wobbly, but no spinning or leader issues even with the small barrel swivel. Down side was I couldn't really fish it because of the little blue gills would swarm around it and tap tap tap away. Did find out I can't take vid and retrieve a fly at the same time.

Looks pretty good in black and purple too.

random user 06-09-2013 09:53 AM

Re: Leprechaun's Hat Fly
 
Have had it is the water for maybe 4 hours in a lake that holds LMB, pike, crappie and something referred to locally as white perch. Haven't caught a thing on it, but the lil gills sure to like to flock around it and pick away. Purple over black version has had the same result. Going to try another pair in a smaller size. and add a little weight to them.

Starting to think this may be another "fish them till I loose them experiment fail experiment".

bigjim5589 06-09-2013 10:18 AM

Re: Leprechaun's Hat Fly
 
With all the rain :rain: we had recently, it may be the fish are just in a negative mood.
I would give those flies some serious water time, particularly as the weather improves. They'll produce, I'm sure of it! :thumbsup:

Keep us posted! :popcorn:

Kerry Pitt 07-04-2013 03:44 PM

Re: Leprechaun's Hat Fly
 
Great pattern IMHO. They would work for Salmon on the Canadian Pacific Coastal Rivers so I would think they will work elsewhere.


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