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cjdubya 06-23-2013 04:23 PM

Beginner Fly Tying Kits
 
Hey all -

Looking to venture into the world of tying my own flies. Any opinions on a good kit that will be help me get started? Right now I'm leaning towards the Orvis kit for $189 that comes with all the necessary tools. Thanks in advance!

utah daveii 06-23-2013 05:06 PM

Re: Beginner Fly Tying Kits
 
Personally, I would stay away from the kits. I think the orvis is better than most. But you could go with a griffin vise (1A-2A) for 40-65 bucks and mix and match your tools. You do not need all of those tools. You can get away with a pair of scissors ($10-$25), bobbin ($12), whip finisher ($7-$15) good pair of hackle pliers and hair stacker ($7.00-$20.00) to start. That would leave you a lot of room for dubbing, hackle and hair.

half fast 06-23-2013 07:57 PM

Re: Beginner Fly Tying Kits
 
If possible, take a class or two first. Many classes will provide equipment, and after a few lessons you'll have a better idea of what you need and what you like. If there's a fly shop in your area, they'll likely know where you can get into a class if they don't run their own. You also need to think about what flies you'll need in your area for the species you're fishing for, and you'll want to have a little knowledge of what's needed to tie them before you sink money into tools and materials.

williamhj 06-23-2013 07:57 PM

Re: Beginner Fly Tying Kits
 
If you haven't done so, use the search function - type in 'kits' and you'll find a number of threads where this has been discussed. People will probably weigh in on this thread, but there is already a lot of good info out there.

I don't know the kit you're looking at. A risk is that you're going to pay for materials you won't use.

cjdubya 06-23-2013 09:18 PM

Re: Beginner Fly Tying Kits
 
Thanks for the feedback everyone. I fish in Central PA.. quite a few fly shops around.. I'll definitely look into some classes. I use dries most of the time and don't really do a lot of nymphing. Been using a lot of caddis flies, drakes, cahills, blue winged olives, etc. I did notice that the Orvis kit I mentioned comes with a ton of tools that I can't see myself using each and every one of them. The fly shops in the area are pretty pricey with their flies which I why I am interested in tying my own. Thanks again for all the help!

utah daveii 06-23-2013 11:37 PM

Re: Beginner Fly Tying Kits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cjdubya (Post 566534)
. The fly shops in the area are pretty pricey with their flies which I why I am interested in tying my own. Thanks again for all the help!

I don't want to burst your bubble, but the likelihood that you will save money tying is pretty low. That is what I told my wife, when I got into tying. When I bought materials, I even tried to tie enough flies that at $1-2.0 a fly I was covering my cost. Now I own thousands of dollars of flytying material. Eventually, everyone loses their discipline and starts buying materials for the ties they want to tie. For instance, I have tons of zelon for my blue ribbon and Mike Lawson flies. I also have materiels for Mike Mercer Caddis flies. Then I have my stuff for Elk Hair Caddis. Then I bought stuff for Lafontaine Caddis. I had to get the good stuff from the bookmailer of course.

The bottom line is that when you look at the number of flies that you can tie from the materials you have it is pretty impressive and you usually tie at a low cost per fly. The problem is it takes a lot of flies to make up for your capital investment.

flytire 06-24-2013 04:49 AM

Re: Beginner Fly Tying Kits
 
buy the orvis kit you mention in your first post IF it contains the correct materials needed to tie he flies you want to tie. if not, then move on to another kit that has what you want.

its possible that kits contain materials that you will never need or use but i disagree. you CAN use those materials to practice tying your own specific creation or to practice different tying techniques. using your imagination you can create just about anything.

the materials you get in a kit is certainly not of the highest quality but CAN be used to tie some respectable flies. granted you may not use all of the materials in a kit but so what. theyll be there if you ever decide to try tying something with them.

after all is said and done, i would definately head out to that orvis shop near you and take a good hard look at that kit you want to buy. thats the only way to tell if its right for YOU. if not, i hope you had a plan B :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjdubya (Post 566534)
I did notice that the Orvis kit I mentioned comes with a ton of tools that I can't see myself using each and every one of them.

http://www.orvis.com/orvis_assets/prodimg/08XZL1HH.jpg

that is quite possible but there is always the possibility that one day you just might need that one tool thats in that kit you thought you would never use!

dabluz 06-26-2013 09:21 AM

Re: Beginner Fly Tying Kits
 
I have been making flies for close to 40 years.

If you have the budget....buy the kit.

If you are on a budget....stay away from any kit!

An excellent vise can be bought for 40 dollars. Limit yourself to buying stuff for making flies that look like the flies you see streamside. Fancy colours, flashy tinsel, plastic doo-dads....you don't need them at first.

Most bugs are brown and most have grey wings.

kglissmeyer1 06-26-2013 09:36 AM

Re: Beginner Fly Tying Kits
 
We lived in West Yellowstone at the time and my wife went in to Blue Ribbon flies and our dear friend Jackie Matthews put together a "kit" with all the stuff I would really use over time. That's the way to do it, go to your favorite fly shop and ask their help to put together something useful. You will save money and get the things you need including materials to tie the flies you will use. Good luck.

Kelly.

pikefisher69 06-26-2013 01:27 PM

Re: Beginner Fly Tying Kits
 
I have bought that orvis kit when I started tying, and I thought it was pretty good and I was happy I got it. It's a good starter kit.


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