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Old 09-08-2013, 10:37 PM
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Default Very small dries

I do, but I'm wondering why on something. Do you really think it's necessary to put wings on small dries,,,20 or smaller ? I'll be honest,,putting wings on ultra small dries give me a headache for the effort.

What say ye ? Tail, body and a good hackle good enough ?

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Old 09-08-2013, 11:02 PM
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I often tie them without wings, I more often tie them as parachutes or comparadun style. I do wonder if there are times that wings can make a different but more often then not they don't matter.
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William, do you like using UV Resins more than standard stuff like 'hard as nails' and such ?

I've thought about going this way myself, but as there is no other fly tier around to show me his examples, I haven't gotten into it.

Seems like the way to go from were I'm at. Just appears you can do so much more with it. I first got to thinking on UV resins for scud backs and nymph wing cases and such.
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Default Re: Very small dries

I use both. If it will soak into the thread, ex at the base of parachutes or a dot on thread heads, I use hard as nails or head cement. When I want something thicker or want it to be visible I use the UV stuff.
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Default Re: Very small dries

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I do, but I'm wondering why on something. Do you really think it's necessary to put wings on small dries,,,20 or smaller ? I'll be honest,,putting wings on ultra small dries give me a headache for the effort.

What say ye ? Tail, body and a good hackle good enough ?

Thanks friends,

Mike
Mike,

I tie regular wings down to 18. What I do for 20 & smaller is tie in a couple short pieces of midge flash the same way I would tie in wings. This is probably more for the fisherman than the fish though. I doubt it matters if something is there or not. Sounds like I might have to have experiment during our winter BWO hatches

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Default Re: Very small dries

I don't put any wings on any palmered hackle dry flies like BWO's or Adams. I don't see the point.

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Default Re: Very small dries

It depends on how creative I'm feeling.

Here is a sample of a BWO I tie without wings:
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Also, you may want to experiment with parachute patterns in smaller sizes as has already been suggested.

Here is a step-by-step for tying a simple parachute post without the bulk. For smaller patterns just decrease the size of poly material you tie in for the post:

Tie on a small noodle of poly in color of your choice by securing with three solid wraps around middle of material onto the hook shank:
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Figure-eight several wraps under and around both sides of material:
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Pull the two ends of the material together at the top of the hook and hold them secure while beginning to wrap up the post:
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Wrap securely up the post as pictured. I then attach my hackle to the post so that I can begin wrapping it at the top and then down to the base. Wrapping the hackle is the last step after completing the rest of the fly:
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Default Re: Very small dries

use cdc it makes it easy. Either pinch off each side of stem. or cut the stem out of cdc - making a v and use fiber only.
Montana Fly Company sells a small stemmed natural cdc that can work well on 20's.
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Default Re: Very small dries

I have to get into the small fly frame of mind, once there it really isn't to bad

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Default Re: Very small dries

Speaking of BWO, since I don't have access (money wise) to any blue dun hackle, is grizzly hackle a good alternative?
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