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Old 11-06-2013, 01:29 PM
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Default Bucktail questions

I am going to try some clousers and am about to shop for bucktail. I see it comes in full tails, tail pieces etc. I intend to tie clousers in all sizes. I do plan to buy a little extra white tail and try my hand at dye. Any words of wisdom?

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I tie a lot of flies with bucktail. It will depend on what you mean by all sizes, but I've found that in smaller sizes, like below a size 8, bucktail is not always the best choice. Most folks want the X large tails, which is OK. I'll buy small & medium size tails too, as I prefer the finest textured hair I can get and often get a finer hair with the smaller tails. Fine texture doesn't usually translate into long hair, but I would rather have fine than long when tying most sizes, because IMO you get better action from the finer hair. Unfortunately, if you're buying online, sight unseen, you get what you get & make the most of it.

BTW, if you get hair that is not the best, you can sometimes wash it & rinse in a cheap hair conditioner & help improve the hair a bit.

I use acid dyes for dyeing & get either Jacquard or Dharma Trading Co acid dyes. It's not difficult, like dyeing Easter Eggs. Just don't get the water too hot. Below boiling is best, or else you can damage the hair. There have been other posts about dyeing materials.
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i buy bucktails from Tacklecraft, about $3.63 each....good quality.
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I use a lot of bucktail. Deceiver type flies for the salt mostly
Definitely get one of those grab-bags of pieces. That way you can have a little bit of a bunch of different colors that you wouldn't necessarily use all the time. They're especially useful for mixing colors with just a little pinch of each .
I'd recommend that you get a whole white and a whole chartreuse. The center of the chartreuse that would be a natural brown on the white, dyes to a nice olive color on the chartreuse. Very useful.

And you know what Lefty says:....."It ain't no use if it ain't chartreuse"
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And you know what Lefty says:....."It ain't no use if it ain't chartreuse"
Chartreuse definitely on the list. Black and brite orange works well on my favorite warm waters too. Also want to do some more natural colors.

I plan to tie clousers with bucktail starting around SZ 8 up to LM bass sizes to start. Pike and Musky streamers later and they may or may not be bucktail.
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I use a lot of bucktail! My fly shop calls me the bucktail man! One thing I like about getting it at the store instead of ordering it online is that I can inspect it. All large bucktails are not created equal. Some have long straight hair while others are much shorter and not as desirable. Many are stuffed in their bags and the hair is twisted , bent or matted. For me its worth it to inspect the tails to get the quality I want. As for white natural tails doe tails are often better quality than buck and I've gotten many good ones through hunters and roadkill . Some of the does have very long white tail hair excellent for saltwater Clousers and streamers !
Like what Jim said about using hair stuff to soften them! Have to try that!
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I am asking here because I can buy VERY little tying materials locally. My buddy had an internet glitch and ended up with 10 deer tags, so I should have a few local tails as well. I'm going to ask him to shoot at least one chartreuse deer.
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I am asking here because I can buy VERY little tying materials locally. My buddy had an internet glitch and ended up with 10 deer tags, so I should have a few local tails as well. I'm going to ask him to shoot at least one chartreuse deer.
Colors & patterns & trails - OH MY! and firearms are a bad combination.
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I once worked with a guy that supplied me a lifetime supply of deer hides in a single season
I didn't want to ask why he had that many, but many year later I still have a large box of the belly hair strips that I dyed

Tails are different, you can never have enough tails.
I've never personally collected them from road kill though as I've always pictured that as possibly being viewed as some sort alien mutilation
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Riptide,

Off topic here but..... Why I don't have a deer tag I can't explain. I love deer, as long as they are on other peoples property. They have destroyed so many of my conifers, birch and aspens! And they deprived me of 4 long rows of green beans this year (entire crop). They could open the season big time for a year here and we would be fine. I think an out of state tag is about $600. If MN and WI protected their fish like that I would be upset.
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