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Old 12-21-2013, 12:07 AM
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What are your most challenging, frustrating ties?? My top three are:

1) Deer hair bass bugs: I love tying them, and when you get it right, its a great feeling, but they can be very frustrating, so many things can go wrong.

2) Small dries: I don't even try smaller than #20, and by #16 I'm twisting myself in knots getting a proportional, good looking fly.

3) Copper John's: a lot of things going on with this fly, getting a well tapered body with tight wraps of wire, and a straight tail and legs makes this a tough tie for me.

That's the nice thing about tying I think, after being at it for 20 years you never run out of challenges.

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Old 12-21-2013, 03:24 AM
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but seriously

woven flies - ive tied them but not much use for them for me

salmon flies - tried to tie them not too good results

steel head flies - no steel head fishing in Connecticut

size 26 and under - failing eyes just cant see that small anymore

size 32 - no materials are proportional to the size of hook

deer hair spinning - been there done that moved on

water walker style dry fly - tried but never could get the hackles just right
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What are your most challenging, frustrating ties?? My top three are:

1) Deer hair bass bugs: I love tying them, and when you get it right, its a great feeling, but they can be very frustrating, so many things can go wrong.

2) Small dries: I don't even try smaller than #20, and by #16 I'm twisting myself in knots getting a proportional, good looking fly.

3) Copper John's: a lot of things going on with this fly, getting a well tapered body with tight wraps of wire, and a straight tail and legs makes this a tough tie for me.

That's the nice thing about tying I think, after being at it for 20 years you never run out of challenges.

Tom
Stop worrying too much about how tight your wraps are on your copper johns... Even in Barr Flies you can see gaps in his copper john wire!

Dry flies... All of them... I suck at wrapping dry hackle. Wet flies too. Just suck at hackle in general.
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Default Re: What patterns drive you nuts?

Mallard wings on my steelhead patterns. Lady Caroline is one of my favorite patterns to use but they can take a while for me to tie because of those dang wings!
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Old 12-21-2013, 08:26 AM
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If has spun deer hair I don't even try ......

The other one is odd as the fly couldn't be more simple: Egg patterns for Steelhead/Salmon fishing. Hell, all you do is strap on some egg yarn to the top of the hook, pull up and snip off the extra. Idea the yarn will pop back into a ball.

Not mine!

Last but not least are (any?) fly that's going on less than a size 10 hook. 'Old' just catches up with some folks.
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Copper Johns for me

These Franks Flashy too, because there is no "recipe" to be found from the originator. I find every time I sit down to tie some the first few suck. After that I get a rhythm going and they are fine. You just have to figure out the process and repeat it.

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What are your most challenging, frustrating ties?? My top three are:

1) Deer hair bass bugs: I love tying them, and when you get it right, its a great feeling, but they can be very frustrating, so many things can go wrong.

2) Small dries: I don't even try smaller than #20, and by #16 I'm twisting myself in knots getting a proportional, good looking fly.

3) Copper John's: a lot of things going on with this fly, getting a well tapered body with tight wraps of wire, and a straight tail and legs makes this a tough tie for me.

That's the nice thing about tying I think, after being at it for 20 years you never run out of challenges.

Tom
Tom: That's pretty much my list also, except with my eye sight I usually won't do dries below size 18. If I need a dry smaller than that than I just buy them, except for spinners they are pretty easy in the smaller sizes.

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Default Re: What patterns drive you nuts?

Pretty much any pattern that calls for biots in the recipe! I don't like the darn things to begin with, and tying them is a pain! It's just me I know, as there are many good patterns that specify their use, but when I tie such patterns I substitute something else!
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Pheasant Tail Nymphs. The dog hides under the bed whenever she sees me grab a pheasant feather. She knows a fly that looks like Godzilla will soon be born.

I don't know if my CJs are truly right, but the fish eat them so that trumps any "problems" they may or may not actually have.

Flytire, that second pattern you posted is particularly annoying.
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Default Re: What patterns drive you nuts?

Anything 22 and smaller, i'll just buy them at that size IF i even want to fish that small. Thats really about it right now that irritates me, luckily most of my productive patterns stop at size 20 so Im good to go.


PTs and Copper Johns really arent that bad IMO, I guess once you tie enough though things dont bother you as much.
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