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Old 02-12-2014, 11:09 PM
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Ordered a second order from Feather Europium. A hen cape, couple goose wing feathers, some tailing fibers and the top trim off of a saddle,,,a 'saddle patch' with some really tiny feathers in brown. I have some super small grizzly's,,,so I'm gonna try to find me some 22-24 size hooks and try some tiny flies. Maybe even smaller than that just to satisfy my own curiosity. Were,,,is a good place to search for the smaller hooks ?

I got a dry fly cape from FE,,and if you remember I had questions. But the more I learned about how they are graded,,I think he did me good after all. There was a bunch of Cree's even on one lower side,,and I didn't have to pay extra really for them being on the cape. Id purchased the bottom grade on the scale and with him giving me one that had prob 25percent Cree's,,I feel now he did me very decent.

I'll let ya know what I think this time. I'm just glad I got some education before I went back on him about the last cape.

I'm snowed in and bored,,,,lol

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Old 02-12-2014, 11:42 PM
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Good to know, I just ordered some dyed grizzly to play with on some flies. Figure for pike and bass they are going to destroy the fly anyways so I just ordered some smaller things to test out.
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Old 02-13-2014, 05:16 AM
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i wish everybody has good luck buying hackle feathers online but i just cant bring myself to do it. i guess that's just me or experience.

i do realize that today's hackle products are far superior to the hackles i bought in the early 80's when i started tying flies. but the process i learned from my tying instructor regarding the selection of hackles hasn't changed one bit.

i just don't want some inexperienced person to pluck a $$$ cape or saddle off the peg board just to fulfill my order.

i have to have that package of hackles in my hands regardless if its a rooster, hen, cape or saddles. since i'm paying some good amount of a paycheck for feathers i want to inspect what i'm buying at the time i'm buying it.

i like to remove the feathers from the zip lock baggie and splay open the feathers and check for signs of bug life (they could be in there). i inspect a few feathers for webbiness or lack thereof, flex of the hackle stem, consistent barb length, consistent color etc.

the whole cape/saddle feathers will get a check for the size of flies i want to tie, consistent color and shininess, making sure the skin was well prepared (no meat left attached)

after all of that is done then i'm ready to spend a good chunk of my paycheck for what i have determined is the best deal for me

just my 2 cents in the grand scheme of things.
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i wish everybody has good luck buying hackle feathers online but i just cant bring myself to do it. i guess that's just me or experience.

i just don't want some inexperienced person to pluck a $$$ cape or saddle off the peg board just to fulfill my order.
I can understand what your getting at here and totally agree, my only issue is that there is zero places within 50 miles for me to go and inspect feathers before purchase except a bass pro shop, and quite frankly their hackle feather are junk

my experience from feather emporium was two days to my door from the point of purchase and these appear to be some of the best hackle feathers i have bought so far.

i did a small order to test the waters, so to speak
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Yeah, I have a very long drive to find anything resembling a fly shop. There is one that is less than a half day's drive of my house but getting there is a royal pain. Once I figure in the cost of gas to drive all that way, I am paying a super premium on already high prices. It is a great shop but is only a once or twice a year kind of place.
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Im in the same boat. When I am in a fly shop, I spend an INAPROPRIATE amount of time opening packages and thumbing thru hairs and feather. They must hate me. I'll pull off every bucktail, inspect them and put them in little piles of grades before I select. The worst is when I do this then leave the store with nothing. LOL

My closest fly shop is 2 hours away, so whenever I find myself in a flyshop, I am prepared to buy.

I will buy online, but mostly hooks, thread, beads, eyes, etc... or only if Im desperate for something.
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I've found FE to be a great place to buy feathers.

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Yep I am in the same place as to not having anywhere near to see hackles. I've come to find some good places and not so good places and I always buy the smallest I can if I don't know how well they can pick.
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i wish everybody has good luck buying hackle feathers online but i just cant bring myself to do it. i guess that's just me or experience.

just my 2 cents in the grand scheme of things.
Just trying to relate experience
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I can understand what your getting at here and totally agree, my only issue is that there is zero places within 50 miles for me to go and inspect feathers before purchase except a bass pro shop, and quite frankly their hackle feather are junk

my experience from feather emporium was two days to my door from the point of purchase and these appear to be some of the best hackle feathers i have bought so far.

i did a small order to test the waters, so to speak
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