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Old 08-20-2015, 11:07 AM
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Default Peak Vise Set Screws won't hold

Peak Vise owners, I need your ad-vise.

I like my rotary vise, but it is rotating in an axis that I don't want.
The vertical post extension has a brass screw that will not stay tight, and when I go to do a tight wrap, the vise turns toward me. See this brief video:
I suppose I could get some pliers REALLY tighten down that screw, but should it really need that much torque to hold properly?
Am I using the correct brass screw that came with the vise?
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Default Re: Peak Vise Set Screws won't hold

There's not enough torque being applied by hand to hold the shaft in place. Especially when you have the leverage of the vice jaw to rotate the shaft with. Take pliers and snug the thumbscrew down. You can't get enough torque by hand with these small brass thumbscrews. If you want to stay tool free then go to ace hardware and get a plastic hand knob with the brass stud to fit. A 3/4-1" diameter hand knob will give you more than enough leverage to tighten that shaft securely. For the bottom thumbscrew replace it with a set screw and use a driver to secure the shaft. Or use the pliers. lol. I have a peak vice.
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When that happens and you find your blood boiing, repeat the mantra "Renzetti, Renzetti, Renzetti" slowly until you calm down.
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Default Re: Peak Vise Set Screws won't hold

Yikes: I have the same vise, but have never noticed the problem you are describing, so I tried tightening the brass knob and it doesn't fully lock the rotary function when tightening by hand. Now I'm wondering as you crank down on the thread pressure, are you pulling down vertically or coming back toward your body? If you are cranking down on the thread pressure and pulling back toward your body, that might be causing the rotation you describe. Try cranking down on the thread by pulling straight down or straight up and see what that does. I'm assuming that with that much thread pressure you must be wrapping deer hair.

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When that happens and you find your blood boiing, repeat the mantra "Renzetti, Renzetti, Renzetti" slowly until you calm down.
Silver: That was too funny, thanks I needed a good laugh!!!!!
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Loctite Blue it does a body good!

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Yikes: I have the same vise, but have never noticed the problem you are describing, so I tried tightening the brass knob and it doesn't fully lock the rotary function when tightening by hand. Now I'm wondering as you crank down on the thread pressure, are you pulling down vertically or coming back toward your body? If you are cranking down on the thread pressure and pulling back toward your body, that might be causing the rotation you describe. Try cranking down on the thread by pulling straight down or straight up and see what that does. I'm assuming that with that much thread pressure you must be wrapping deer hair.
mcnerney, I am a newbie at fly tying, and I don't fully know what I'm doing! I lack finesse, so I could be pulling too hard, whether or not it's deer hair or simply lead-free wire. Sometimes it happens when I pass the bobbin behind something I'm trying to tie off, and then my hand bumps the vise, then it rotates free.

What happens is that I'll tighten the brass screw, then after about 4-5 minutes, I suddenly realize that at some point it has come loose again. I will try to watch for it when I tie again tonight.

Other than that one issue, I really like the Peak so far. One of the benefits of the vise is its aesthetic value. When I'm not using it, I can leave it out in the living room and it looks like some kind of modernist sculpture. (That will last until my first major spill with head cement and black marabou.)
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Default Re: Peak Vise Set Screws won't hold

Yikes: That is an interesting dilemma. Maybe as acorad suggests, a drop of Locktite blue on the threads of the brass knob would do the trick. When I bump my vise it has a tacky feel to it and doesn't rotate unless I really push on it. Most of my tying is done on 8/0 to 14/0 thread, I don't put all that much pressure on the thread unless I'm spinning deer hair and of course using much stronger thread, that is why I was assuming earlier that you must be spinning deer hair. I definitely don't like the description of tightening the brass knob, everything is fine and then a few minutes later things are loose again, that definitely shouldn't be happening.
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Default Re: Peak Vise Set Screws won't hold

heres what they look like on the peak website

Click the image to open in full size.

could that be the problem?

can you remove the riser? and insert the stem as shown above?

Click the image to open in full size.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imjQ...yer_embedded#!

you may have to fiddle around with your vise to get it working.


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Default Re: Peak Vise Set Screws won't hold

I think that is the wrong bolt. I have a Peak and the tightening bolt has a plastic tip on it. I have had no problem with it and only finger tighten it. See if maybe that bolt has been placed elsewhere during the assembly. I love my Peak. Good luck and happy tying.
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