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Old 09-29-2010, 05:45 PM
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Old 09-29-2010, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: Salmon Fly Tie-Along?

Here's a few I whipped up. # 2 is gold dubbing. I put the tinsel on after the palmer to protect the hackle & it was hard not catch the barbles. I only used one coat of SH on the head. I'm not going to post the one I did without a vise. It looks even worse than these.
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Old 09-29-2010, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: Salmon Fly Tie-Along?

Neil,

I like the combination of the orange body with what looks like a grizzly dyed olive hackle. Ard used the same technique; ribbing after hackling, in order to better protect the hackle stem.

The second tie with the dubbed body has a lot of the body characteristics of what we'll use on the March Brown.

I wouldn't even attempt to think about attempting to tie a fly without a vise!

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I still don't have the up eye hooks. I guess I'll just post what I've got and move on...give me a day to get the pic up.
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Default Re: Salmon Fly Tie-Along?

When I sat down to tie this it became obvious that I don't have a hen pheasant tail. I need to snoop around to see if I have a tail from a cock bird, all I have are a bunch of golden pheasant tails. The problem seems to be finding some sections that will stay together when I bind them down. No doubt the wing will not look like this after I use it. I'm going to make some more and if I get the wings to stay together I'll add another to the post, if not this is what they will look like. Looks like a trout catcher to me............

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Looks like it's going to be turkey wings for me, I have many different shades so I'll make a mixed batch. Allan, the tinsel was a scrap lying on my bench and I thought the copper would be alright with the browns so I strapped it on.

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Ard,

Those are both nice flies. I particularly like the tie with the mottled turkey wing and the reverse ribbing. Chris reverse ribs a lot and I like the effect; a little different from what we right handers usually do; wind the material away from ourselves. I think that the copper rib looks great; it really ties the whole fly together (no pun intended ). I used it on my AMA hairwing fly last winter.

Having said that, I also like the very light effect that you created with the first tie. What is that wing feather? It almost looks like florican, but I guess from your post that it's golden pheasant. I'm also partial to tails on Salmon flies and, for me, wood duck makes an interesting tail each and every time.

The finish on the heads looks professional to me.

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Default Here's one with a tail;

Allan,

I never realized that I tied two of these without tails. I need to slow down I guess, I just sat down and tied the flies and the one with the reversed rib had such a nice body taper so I took a picture and put it on the thread, When I read your post I went back and looked at the picture and (opps) no tail................. here's another with a tail.

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What I notice about the turkey feathers as wings is that when you mount them they leave you with a pretty big stump of fibers to trim off and make it hard to finish with a small head.
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Here is mine with the gp tail, and hen mallard tail
Ard I forgot the tail on the first one too

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Default Re: Salmon Fly Tie-Along?

Not sure about better late than never..and certainly not better than other "grub" ties so far but I'll try and keep up.

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Here's my shot at this next fly...I didn't have Pheasant Hen and you can barely see the rib in the pic but its there and counter wrapped.

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Allan,

I never realized that I tied two of these without tails. I need to slow down I guess, I just sat down and tied the flies and the one with the reversed rib had such a nice body taper so I took a picture and put it on the thread, When I read your post I went back and looked at the picture and (opps) no tail................. here's another with a tail.

[IMG]Click the image to open in full size.[/IMG]

What I notice about the turkey feathers as wings is that when you mount them they leave you with a pretty big stump of fibers to trim off and make it hard to finish with a small head.
Ard,

I didn't mean to send you back to the vise for the tail(s) But, I do think that the pattern looks more balanced with a tail on it.

I agree with what you say about the turkey slips; turkey barbs are among the thickest that you'll tie into a winged Salmon fly and hiding the waste ends can be challenging. But, turkey has some very nice colors and it's easy to source (I have a flock that walks through my yard 2-3 times a day!) That's why for mixed wings most tyers are using goose or swan; very pliable and small diameter barbs; also very easy to compress with thread wraps.

Allan

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Here is mine with the gp tail, and hen mallard tail
Ard I forgot the tail on the first one too

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Chris,

Thanks for posting your March Brown tie. That GP looks like a hard material to wing with.

I like the mallard hen tail better than what's called for in the original recipe; unbarred wood duck. The striation in the barbs is much stronger than with the duck; goes very well with the body color and the overall look of the fly. I'm going to try that.

By the way, I've been meaning to ask you, are there any fly shops in NZ that carry a cochybondhu wet fly hackle (like a Whiting American cock cape)? If so, I'd be interested in getting one. Thanks.

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