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Old 01-29-2011, 11:26 AM
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Just to be clear, I am referencing the kind you put on a nymph.

Pheasant tail, biots, bucktail, turkey tail, trimmed brown, black or tan saddle feathers, and maribou.

I often get creative at the tying bench, and like to try different materials for tails on my flies, and was curious as to what material most of you find to be most effective and or use most often as a tail on your nymphs.

Lately it seems I have been using a lot of dark brown biot, and it seems to be working out. Just not sure it is the most effective.


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Old 01-29-2011, 02:50 PM
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Hi Dave,

Back when tying nymphs was part of my repertoire I used biot on stones because as tiers became more inclined toward realism I tried some of the well crafted designs. I always just used a sparse bunch of hackle fibers on mayfly nymphs and became a fan of soft hackle caddis with bodies ranging from dub, quill, to swanendaze (that translucent plastic wrap) I was never sure if having legs on a stone fly creeper made it work better or not but I labored at making them also. In spite of all my efforts with making really cool nymphs when I look back I don't think anything ever caught more than a Hares Ear with brass or copper wire for the rib / weight.

As I wrote the above I was thinking about the flies I make now. Tying a nice Santiam Spectrum is not a quick and easy thing but I had outstanding catches last year with the pattern. However I also had a week where a simple Skykomish Sunrise put more fish on shore than I could believe so.................... I'm not gonna be your best source of inspiration when it comes to the question you put forth by the look of it. I think we both do the same thing, we make what we want to make and then we go catch fish with it. When we have good results on something a little or a lot more articulated in its construction we are happy that the work was not in vain and when we knock em dead with a very simple tie we feel a little more traditional. Kinda like a compound bow or a long bow, they both take game and some have both.

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Hey Dave
Tailing is one place that I haven't deviated much from the recipes, but I'm going to start. There were some Coq De Leon tailing packs at a tyers demo we were at. They looked great. Plus, I've been interested since I saw (video) a tyer use it for a tail and legs on a split case nymph. It would also look good for calleabetis nymphs, IMO.

*you ever find whose fly from the Nymph Swap was in your fish pic?
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Hi Dave
You may use anything you like .I use partridge mostly but sometimes i use first thing I get my hands on
This stone clinger have moose tails

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You may use anything you like .I use partridge mostly but sometimes i use first thing I get my hands on
This stone clinger have moose tails

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Madjoni: That is one mean looking bug, do you wear gloves when handling it!

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*you ever find whose fly from the Nymph Swap was in your fish pic?
Nope, not yet, I was trying to figure out what the body material was on that fly, the closest I have come so far is Ozark Turkey Tail quills wrapped around the hook shank.

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Yep, I like to play, and see what works well, what does not, I tie biots in sideways with a dubbing ball in between sometimes, sometimes, it is a cross pattern (horizontal) accross the top. I do like hares mask for tails as well, and have been tying hares ears with prism dubbing lately also. That prism dubbing has a lot of sparkle to it, and the fish seem to like it.

madjoni, nice bug! Have nto done much with partridge tails, but I do have some partridge, maybe I will give it a shot on a few.

There are so many cool materials out these days, I am working on my favorite winter fly swap flies right now, but I have been known to deviate from time to time, when I get tired of tying the same pattern over and over again. I have two tying vises so deviating does not impact me too much.

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Madjoni: That is one mean looking bug, do you wear gloves when handling it!

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Winter is long and i make flies like this only then

I dont use nymphs much,but when i do i like something like this

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madjoni, nice bug! Have nto done much with partridge tails, but I do have some partridge, maybe I will give it a shot on a few.

There are so many cool materials out these days, I am working on my favorite winter fly swap flies right now, but I have been known to deviate from time to time, when I get tired of tying the same pattern over and over again. I have two tying vises so deviating does not impact me too much.

Dave
Thanks Dave

Yes there is plenty materials out there,but natural ones rules

Biots

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Nice nymphs, I also like to contrast my nymphs, dark and light, and often tie them with 2 or 3 colors of dubbing, I think it looks more like the naturals and they seem to work. Are you using a dark epoxy on the wing cases? If so, what are you using?

Again, cdc as a tail was not something I had tried, but looks buggy.

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Nice nymphs, I also like to contrast my nymphs, dark and light, and often tie them with 2 or 3 colors of dubbing, I think it looks more like the naturals and they seem to work. Are you using a dark epoxy on the wing cases? If so, what are you using?

Again, cdc as a tail was not something I had tried, but looks buggy.

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I dont use dark epoxy.Never seen such thing in our stores
I use average,clear epoxy ..and color comes from dark wingcase .

CDC? Well,europian grayling is one clever and hard to get fish sometimes.It likes slimy looking nymphs
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Since I hunt turkeys and the feathers are free, I use them a lot!

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