The North American Fly Fishing Forum


Go Back   The North American Fly Fishing Forum > Spey Casting, Spey and Switch Fly Rods and Double Handed Fly Fishing > How to Spey Cast - Technique and Advice

Like Tree7Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 12-02-2012, 05:58 PM
fredaevans's Avatar
Senior Member

 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: White City (tad north of Medford) Oar-E-Gone
Posts: 5,402
fredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Monsters do exist, I need one.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diver Dan View Post
Maybe we can introduce my ex to your ex. "Monster, Jabba the ex. Jabba the ex, monster."
They'd probably get along just fine ... 'Birds of a Feather' sort of thing?
Guest1 likes this.
__________________
"“Reputation is what the world thinks a man is; character is what he really is.”
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 12-03-2012, 06:37 AM
New Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland & part of year in Kafjord, Norway
Posts: 4
tonyprior is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Monsters do exist, I need one.

Well very interesting. I haven't seen or heard of a 20' Hardy over here in UK, though doubtless one or two exist. But yesterday I came across an interesting article on the subject of long rods, by our last rod-builder in Scotland, Harry Jamieson of the Trossachs Rod Company, the maker of 'Clan' rods. Mr Jamieson traces a direct lineage to Alexander Grant of Inverness, whose exploits with the long greenheart 'Vibration' rods and silk lines at the turn of the last century were only recently equalled (distance casting). He holds some very unfashionable theories as to the usefulness of long rods versus short rods, which can be found here:

http://www.clanofsweden.com/document...0the%20rod.pdf

I believe the Trossachs Rod Co is still in business and the rods are highly thought of by those in the know. (I have no affiliation with the company, btw,)

Good luck with your search
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 12-03-2012, 09:28 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Buffalo/SRQ FL/Götebörg, Sweden
Posts: 2,439
Blog Entries: 4
gatortransplant has much to be proud ofgatortransplant has much to be proud ofgatortransplant has much to be proud ofgatortransplant has much to be proud ofgatortransplant has much to be proud ofgatortransplant has much to be proud ofgatortransplant has much to be proud ofgatortransplant has much to be proud ofgatortransplant has much to be proud of
Default Re: Monsters do exist, I need one.

Hmmm, tarpon on the spey??
__________________
- A.J.

Working out a way to convince my university to allow me to hold my TA office hours on the nearby creek...
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 12-03-2012, 10:59 AM
theboz's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pocono Lake , Pennsylvania
Posts: 3,153
theboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Monsters do exist, I need one.

Funny thing is your probably gonna find one! There is a surf rod company out there that makes a 19'8" rod and a 23' rod of carbon /graphite. They call their rods "Monster Rods"!
Back in the 30s and 40s when casting competitions were real big Winston made the winning sticks. You have a 15 from them now what's 5 more feet? Can't wait to see this thing!
__________________
"I was born to fish" Lee Wulff
"There's more B.S. in fly fishing then there is in a Kansas feedlot." Lefty Kreh
" It ain't over till it's over." Yogi Berra
"Your not old,you've simply acquired a patina." Swirlchaser
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 12-03-2012, 12:02 PM
fredaevans's Avatar
Senior Member

 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: White City (tad north of Medford) Oar-E-Gone
Posts: 5,402
fredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Monsters do exist, I need one.

Take a look at this thread on the speypages.. Discussion of long rods and a mention of two companies that do a 20' stick: The 18 Footers - a discussion and comparison - Spey Pages
__________________
"“Reputation is what the world thinks a man is; character is what he really is.”
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 12-03-2012, 12:43 PM
theboz's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pocono Lake , Pennsylvania
Posts: 3,153
theboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond reputetheboz has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Monsters do exist, I need one.

Wow Fred! Looked them up Bruce & Walker Norway Speycaster 20' 4 piece ! This thing is a monster! And they've got a bunch of 18s like they're run of the mill!
__________________
"I was born to fish" Lee Wulff
"There's more B.S. in fly fishing then there is in a Kansas feedlot." Lefty Kreh
" It ain't over till it's over." Yogi Berra
"Your not old,you've simply acquired a patina." Swirlchaser
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 12-03-2012, 02:47 PM
fredaevans's Avatar
Senior Member

 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: White City (tad north of Medford) Oar-E-Gone
Posts: 5,402
fredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Monsters do exist, I need one.

Had one of the 18's and it was a 'Monster Rod;' far more than I could handle. I can just imagine what a 20'er would be like.

If you decide to jump on the 20 footer (http://bruceandwalker.co.uk/products...peycaster-4x4/) one thing to keep in mind the 20% VAT is waived as rod is being shipped 'out country.' To get a rough idea of 'your cost' take the list price 'times' .8 'times' $1.62 (approx. conversion rate of dollar to the Pound). Shipping would be costly due to the length of the package. Will have to go UPS/DSL/whom-ever. Max length of a Postal package (if memory serves) is 1 meter long, and you'd be waaaay over that.

Forgot to add: I purchased my 18 footer direct from B & W, whole process went 'as smooth as silk.'

Fred
Guest1 likes this.
__________________
"“Reputation is what the world thinks a man is; character is what he really is.”

Last edited by fredaevans; 12-03-2012 at 03:12 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 12-03-2012, 06:33 PM
Guest1's Avatar
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Lake of the Woods/Rainy River Minnesota Canada border
Posts: 4,752
Guest1 has a reputation beyond reputeGuest1 has a reputation beyond reputeGuest1 has a reputation beyond reputeGuest1 has a reputation beyond reputeGuest1 has a reputation beyond reputeGuest1 has a reputation beyond reputeGuest1 has a reputation beyond reputeGuest1 has a reputation beyond reputeGuest1 has a reputation beyond reputeGuest1 has a reputation beyond reputeGuest1 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Monsters do exist, I need one.

Thanks Fred. I appreciate the research you have done in this. Carron does a 20'er also, but they don't tell you what they get for one. Team Carron has done some amazing things with those rods. At least if I can't find the Hardy 20'er, there are a couple more options.
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 12-03-2012, 06:59 PM
fredaevans's Avatar
Senior Member

 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: White City (tad north of Medford) Oar-E-Gone
Posts: 5,402
fredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond reputefredaevans has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Monsters do exist, I need one.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diver Dan View Post
Thanks Fred. I appreciate the research you have done in this. Carron does a 20'er also, but they don't tell you what they get for one. Team Carron has done some amazing things with those rods. At least if I can't find the Hardy 20'er, there are a couple more options.
Couple of things. In Comp casting 18' is as long as it gets to my knowledge. The bad news is 'Team Carron' is no more. Disbanded about a year ago.
__________________
"“Reputation is what the world thinks a man is; character is what he really is.”
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 12-04-2012, 11:36 AM
Guest1's Avatar
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Lake of the Woods/Rainy River Minnesota Canada border
Posts: 4,752
Guest1 has a reputation beyond reputeGuest1 has a reputation beyond reputeGuest1 has a reputation beyond reputeGuest1 has a reputation beyond reputeGuest1 has a reputation beyond reputeGuest1 has a reputation beyond reputeGuest1 has a reputation beyond reputeGuest1 has a reputation beyond reputeGuest1 has a reputation beyond reputeGuest1 has a reputation beyond reputeGuest1 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Monsters do exist, I need one.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fredaevans View Post
The bad news is 'Team Carron' is no more. Disbanded about a year ago.
Oh no! What happened there? Does Gordon Armstrong still cast for Carron or do they even do competitions now?

I saw a competition a while back where they used real fishing conditions in a river with 15' rods. The top two places were really far casts. But everyone else, not so much.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The Oregon Trip: Eight new types of trout, including one that doesn't exist Poke 'Em Coldwater Fly Fishing 5 09-05-2012 09:38 AM
Good places to fish exist on many, if not most, Northern Colorado streams and lakes, Fish Bones The Daily Papers 0 07-29-2009 01:11 AM
Tuscarora Creek, and small streams near Frederick that don't exist anymore, are the w Fish Bones The Daily Papers 0 12-25-2008 09:30 AM













All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:45 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
2005-2014 The North American Fly Fishing Forum. All rights reserved.