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Old 01-19-2013, 07:31 PM
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How far do you need to cast? How big are the flies you need to get that distance?
60 to 70 feet would be my guess for a regular cast. Needs to be able to handle bigger bass streamers and poppers and whatever else needs to be thrown to attract a salmon or steelhead.
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60 to 70 feet would be my guess for a regular cast. Needs to be able to handle bigger bass streamers and poppers and whatever else needs to be thrown to attract a salmon or steelhead.
That's nothin'. A 12' 7 wt. or something would more than do that. You could use a switch rod and do it.
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Default Re: Why did you go two hand?

lots of neat reasons posted here. Ill admit I havent been able to use my 12,6 6wt very often, but then again one of my reasons for getting into spey, albeit a short rig, I got hook on those graceful videos showing spey casting and it looked so relaxing. I have gotten some crazy looks from bait dunkers at the pond I use it at aiming at carp with the rock dam behind me. but its fun... I can only imagine how fun a full size spey rig would be.
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Default Re: Why did you go two hand?

I got into spey casting because I wanted to fish all day and not get so tired. Also, I wanted to fish places where I had limited room to make a back cast.

They were good reasons. Here, however, are some things to consider:

1. There's a steep learning curve; and it's not easy deciding on what's the best line for you. (I tried a long belly, then the Windcutter before I settled on a Scandi. Recently, I've gone to the new Rage line.)

2. Unless you're casting a Skagit line - which means retrieving after each cast - you'll have a tough time casting bigger/heavier flies.

3. If you try to make a short cast, you'll have a very tough time.

4. The longer the spey rod, the harder it is to play and land a fish.

5. Be prepared to spend more money than you think you will.

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Randy,

That's the kind of information that I am interested it. With anything, there is an added cost but is going two handed really that complicated? I know that the casting is going to be a different thing than I am used to but I am willing to put in the effort. I can, and people do, fish the areas I am interested in with something like a 10 foot single hand 8 weight but I am looking for the advantages that a no back cast will give me. Over here on the right coast, I have to deal with over hanging trees and no shore to speak of. I just found the right line for my single hand 5 weight and am working on my double haul. When I head out to the Potomac and the South Branch of the same river in WV, its bigger water without a lot of room.

Rod, backing, line (I already have a reel)...what else would I need to get?
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Derelict,

I think this will help you:

Getting Started With Spey Casting

If you go with a Scandi, Skagit, or Rage, managing running line becomes an issue, so you'll also have to study up on that.

In my case I built a stripping basket for spey fishing.

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but is going two handed really that complicated?
I taught myself watching YouTube. I think it's easier to learn than single hand casting. It is defineltely easier to do with either hand. I suck at single hand casting left handed. I am almost as good left handed with a two hander as I am right handed. In fact when you do start learning it, practice with both hands on top. It's something that will pay off for you.
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I've recently picked up a Sage Graphite 3e 5120 and I plan on swinging nymphs (double and triple nymph rigs, etc) and small baitfish patterns (sculpins, etc). I also have a Meiser Highlander 'S' series 14' 9 weight on it's way that I plan on chucking meat with. All of these rods have Steve Godshall custom cuts on them.

I like to warm up to a rod (kind of like warming up to a girl before I try to take her home ). Both rods above, I would start off slow and get used to them before I started hammering single speys all day.

You could start off learning a few casts, such as the perry poke, snap t/c. These two casts will allow you get a feel for how a d-loop is form with two hands without blowing your anchor as easily. You could move into a snake roll and a double spey afterwards and then work your way into the physics of a single spey. These are just suggestions of course.

How fast is your current and is there a depth that you need to get down to? Are you fishing poppers/foam on the surface?
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Default Re: Why did you go two hand?

I'm pretty new to this as well (bout a two yrs.) and have found I'm able to keep my flies in the water much longer (quicker casts) than if I had say a longer single hand rod. That said, there's a lot to be said about single hand spey casting w/ a SH rod. Just not able to get the distance and more importantly- good meding capabilities- needed for swinging and nymphing upstream- that a longer 2H rod gets you.
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