its pretty much murky all the time. mid summer in drought it gets more stable, but current is rather fast being on the outside of the turn of the river. I think Ill still be able to cast from the ledges ok, to some degree, the water is a bit higher then usual but it was just 10 to 15 ft higher recently. there are some smaller large rivers Im going to try this with also. as for rock, this is cave country, limestone is everywhere.