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Old 07-13-2013, 03:13 AM
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Colin, a complete new term for me ("Go for the Brit-Spey") a link?

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I just think it needs a name - it seems Scandi and Skagit have caught the imagination yet lets face it, are simply variations on the classic theme - welcome certainly but perhaps useful only 'sometimes'. So the normal Spey needs a brand!

Perhaps Brit-spey should be called the "Classic Spey" - but it does sound old fashioned a bit. Certainly I dont think traditional Spey is correct as it has moderrnised over the last few years and is far more efficient now.

Any ideas for a brand name to get it back as the go to choice it should be ?
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A lot depends on how you plan to fish it. Here in the PNW skagits seem pretty common for winter steelhead on the west side of the cascades because they need to get the fly down. Over here on the dry side our season starts in a few weeks and it is all floating lines so scandi's and short- or mid-belly lines are most common. I am far, far from being an expert at this, but I have moved from scandi to a little longer heads (45-55'). Less stripping. 50' of shooting line going out on a cast means a lot of stripping to get it back for the next one!
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I spent yesterday afternoon with all seven lines I own for my two Scott Switch rods. This or tomorrow afternoon I plan to do the same with my two Spey rods. After yesterday's session, I can agree with most everything posted. But I'll stress a couple of points. Skagits (and Scandis, to a lesser extent) send the fly out a long ways. But, all that running line has to be retrieved before you can make another cast.

The mid-bellies (read Delta Spey) don't send the line as far (for me, yet) but I can pick up almost where in the retrieve and make another cast. The timing on these lines is an issue, it has to be more precise for things to work as they should. I need a lot more practice, but I like what I do with the Deltas.

Someone said, "Learn with a Scandi." I think that is good advice. It has some of the attributes of the Skagit and the Delta. If you can make a decent cast with a Scandi, you won't be that far off with the others.

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Old 07-13-2013, 04:40 PM
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I just think it needs a name - it seems Scandi and Skagit have caught the imagination yet lets face it, are simply variations on the classic theme - welcome certainly but perhaps useful only 'sometimes'. So the normal Spey needs a brand!

Perhaps Brit-spey should be called the "Classic Spey" - but it does sound old fashioned a bit. Certainly I dont think traditional Spey is correct as it has moderrnised over the last few years and is far more efficient now.

Any ideas for a brand name to get it back as the go to choice it should be ?

Follow your line of thinking and in total agreement. There's the casting turnie down in San Francisco every year. They had to change the 'rules' as to lines, but the 'Brit Lines' always win. No reason to 'wonder why?'


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I run the RIO skagit setup with the MOW tips. It allows me to select the depth I want to fish at and I actually benefit from having to strip in the line as well as the ability to chuck large flies. When you fish the Lower American River you will want to chuck a huge fly 50+ feet and have it sink like a stone. Plus, the long strip retrieve is great when you're striper fishing and the Steelhead don't mind a little bit of a hard slap on the water when they are down deep.

Its all about finding what works in the water you're fishing. When I go up to the high Sierras, I bring my little 3wt, I don't need a 13' rod when the stream is 5' wide and I need a delicate presentation.
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