01-06-2014, 09:58 AM
Re: Need a better understanding.
Originally Posted by ts47
If I understand Spey casting, this part is currently questionable, I would likely use it for areas where there is no room for a back cast. Is this correct?
General 'Rule of the Thumb' is you need about 1.5 times the rod length of clear air space to form a 'real spey cast.' Most of that space is needed to keep you from whacking the rod tip (they don't like that!) and room to form the 'D' Loop.
The types of waters I fish most often are small creeks (tight quarters), small rivers that are perhaps 15-30 feet across with high banks or trees on both sides, medium size rivers from 30- 100' across.
With the above you'll need two rods (sorry about that ... ) For those small waters just use a single hander rod; there isn't a spey cast you can't do with same with a medium to fast action rod and 'regular' fly lines. Toss up in my mind if a weight forward or a double taper line is the better choice. As long as you've got enough space below the reel to get just two fingers on the butt of the rod, you've got enough to 'launch' a 30-40 foot cast. Trust me on that one, my Sage 10' 7wt XP sees this far more 'spey's' than a standard cast. In a nut shell, "The rod don't know, the rod don't care." If you want to get real 'sexy' have a rod builder pull off the butt cap off the rod and build you a short extension handle. 4 inches is all you'll need.
I will be doing some fishing, how much is yet to be determined, on large rivers. I hope to start bass fishing and catch the spring shad run. Both of these will be done on big open water.
For those bigger waters you will need a full on 2hander but you don't have to 'break the bank' to get a very good one (Echo/TFO come quickly to mind). Repeating myself, but 100' casts are for 'show not for doe.'
Most of my fishing is for trout. I also hope or have plans to fish for shad, steelhead and shad.
For trout/shad a 5 or 6 weight single hander 'spey cast' is all you'll probably ever need. If you want to go the 2hander route here you need a maximum of a 4 weight 11 to 12.5 foot long. And for that light a rod you're probably looking at 'big bucks' to buy one. There look at the R B Meizer or ACR (Gary Anderson) rods. Their very light 2handers are a total treat to cast. Trust me on this one (again ) their ultra light 2handers will blast out line. I can hit upwards of 90' from reel to fly with mine. ONLY THING to keep in mind with this type of rod is you hold the cork in your finger tips ... PERIOD. You can not force a cast; rods just will not go there.
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Major difference between Bob's rods and Gary's is Bob's have 'multi line' designations. Gary's have just one and a much tighter line 'grain range' for line choice.
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