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Old 11-29-2012, 08:17 PM
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Question Purchasing a firearm at a 'Gun Show?'

Hundred's of them around the US every year (including in Medford just south of me). E-mail from one of our UK board members, you go, you see, you want to buy.

Never having been to one had no idea. Do you just drop money on the table and take it home, a back-ground check, what-ever?

Anyone have an idea of what happens before the long/short barrel firearm is handed over?

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I know the requirements are less for a gun show, but like yourself I have never been to one. Even being more lax, it is more restricted than personal sales are. There are virtually no enforcable restrictions there.
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Retails sales follows the same rules as any retail sale in your state.

The retail guys all have you fill out a 4473 just like in a store.
Then they call the NICS hotline for a background check, just like in a store.

Personal sales is where the uninformed get this idea of lawless gun sales.

Personal sales follow the same restrictions as any other personal sale in your state.

If you can search backpage or your local newspaper for people selling personal property (guns) then meet them somewhere to buy it, then you can do the same thing at a gun show.

The difference is that imagine if everyone selling a gun in your local paper that day all went to the park on the same day to sell their guns. That is what part of a gun show is like.

People walk around with signs saying what they are selling, they can rent a table to sell a bunch of brass, some homemade target stands, and that 20 gauge single shot they never shoot anymore, plus a an old crossbow.

The rules they have to follow are the same as the rules they would have to follow if they were meeting you in the walmart parking lot.
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Many thanks for that info! There has to be 'Rules of the Road,' just no clue what those may be.
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Many thanks for that info! There has to be 'Rules of the Road,' just no clue what those may be.

No problem.

The mischaracterization of gun shows makes me cranky.

Does anybody really think that a bunch of people can roll in from many other states, rent a coliseum, apply for all required permits, and then just start breaking local and federal gun laws?

Nope, everything has to be done legally.

Nothing goes on there that isn't happening legally all over the state anyway. It just happens to be concentrated in a small area.
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Default Re: Purchasing a firearm at a 'Gun Show?'

Some states may not allow sales to people not from that state. I live in Oklahoma and could buy a "long" gun in West Virginia, but not a pistol. That might have changed now but if it's an out of state purchase just ask.
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Manners dictate that you ask before handling a firearm from the table/display, and do not assume that it is unloaded.
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Yup Mudbug got it right. Buisness tables its just like purchasing it at stores, personal tables its a face to face exchange, so paper can be involved but does not have to me. Gun shows around here though are filled with junk. Its a bunch of stuff people are super proud of and dont really want to sell. There are used guns that are tagged higher then the same thing new at a retail booth or store. the AK market here also went crazy recently, instead of being 300 they are now fetching the 600-700 range which im sorry im not paying that for some stamped metal and rough cut 2x4s for stocks.
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Never been either, though I do enjoy perusing hunting rifles and revolvers. There is a pretty big one here that I've meant to attend, just to check it out.

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The rules they have to follow are the same as the rules they would have to follow if they were meeting you in the walmart parking lot.
while certainly there is a law, how often do you think the guy selling a rifle or shotgun in the local paper makes a background check before exchanging his firearm for $200 cash in his backyard? Owning rifles, shotguns or even handguns in Montana do not have to be registered, so they can be sold as easily as a guitar.
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while certainly there is a law, how often do you think the guy selling a rifle or shotgun in the local paper makes a background check before exchanging his firearm for $200 cash in his backyard? Owning rifles, shotguns or even handguns in Montana do not have to be registered, so they can be sold as easily as a guitar.

That is the law in your state. So like I said, gun shows follow all local and federal laws.

For instance, gun show sales in CA have to follow their insane restrictions. No "Assault Weapons" and handgun sales require a 10 day waiting period. So I guess no handgun sales if you don't have a local store.

As for the number of private sales where a background check is run... I can answer that for you... NONE, ZERO. Many people would like to make sure that they are not selling to a criminal, there have been petitions to make the NICS system open to regular folk but the FBI says no. So all you can do is ask to see their ID and write a receipt.

Here in AZ many people put in their ad "Sales to CCW holder only, I must see your CCW card". CCW is a concealed carry permit that requires a background check.
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