03-31-2010, 06:35 PM
Re: Utah set to halve river access
Originally Posted by FrankB2
I love the USA, but I don't know how un-American these sort of thing is. The first european settlers had a very clear idea of private land and enforcing
boundries. The Native Americans didn't agree, and the fight was on. The Indian Removal Act
of 1830, forced eastern tribes to accept treaties that moved them to western reservations, and securing lands for white settlers. The Mormon migration into Utah resulted in the Shoshone Indians becoming essentially beggars in their own lands. While Mormons thought it was better to feed the Shoshone than fight them, things did not work out well, and the result was the Bear River Massacre.
I'm not on the side of the landowners in Utah, but we can get a small
taste of what native americans felt with this sort of legislastion. Give them hell, and fight the good fight. We stand a much better chance than the Shoshone did....
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Here is some info regarding Easement: Easement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It's wikipedia, but it's something...
The Shoshone were more in Idaho (but then a lot of it was settled by Mo pioneers.)
It was just amazing the bull$hit thrown by ranchers and landowners and the legislatures ate it al lup. No one was asking to camp, lunch, or play around on their land. I'm sure there were some incidents of tresspassing, but there is no public record of any that we could find.
Politics- but the angler and I hope the Utah water enthusiast will remember this in November at election time.
BTW, the argument from most landowner is- how would you like to have someone walk into your house and sit on the couch and make themselves at home.
The fact of the matter is from the USC- the water user has the right to touch the bottom of the stream or river and fish it. Access must be from a public access and they must leave at a public access.
Life is not like a bowl of cherries. It's more like a jar of jalapeno's. What you eat today might burn your ass tomorrow...