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Old 02-21-2010, 08:57 AM
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Default Vibram Soles

Now that the vibram soles have been out long enough for some serious field testing, does anybody have an opinion on whether or not they perform like felt?

I want to get some new shoes before summer and want to go with Simms. I have the Guide series in felt right now. Love them.

Any first hand information would be very useful.

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Old 02-21-2010, 11:46 AM
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I had a chance to test out some Streamtread boots when they were released. This is what I found out.

1. Felt has an edge on rock snot covered rocks. It creates more friction to cut right through it.

2. The addition of the hard bite studs increase the grip of the Streamtread soles to grip a variety of surfaces.

3. Streamtread soles grip better for hiking out of the water.

4. Streamtread soles do not become KISS style platform soles in the snow. Imagine Gene Simmons in waders.

5. I know some guides who have well over 100 guiding days in their Streamtread boots. It seems that their boots can go well over another 100 guiding days easily. Keep in mind most of my guide friends spend more than half of their time in the drift boat.

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Default Re: Vibram Soles

I have a pair of Simms in the Vibram soles and have been pleasantly surprised how well they grip in slick rivers. I loved my felt so was a little cautious on buying a pair of the Vibram but could not be happier with them. I did add the studs and they help a lot. THey are also really nice for hiking out of the water as well.
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Mojo turned me on to the Simms Rivershed Vibrams and MAN WHAT A BOOT!
I have been out with them twice and they really do very well. It is early in the year and the streams are washed clean so I have not screwed in the hardbite cleats yet, but could not be happier with the boots performance. As others have mentioned, walikng on land is a treat also.
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I have the Rivershed boots. Use the cleats a couple times for snot rocks. I've had the old Simms Guide boots (5/10 sticky sole with the spikes) for 9 or so years before that. I also have some Orvis Brogue felts that I've worn a couple times, but I'll never go back to felt.
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Default Re: Vibram Soles

I don't know what scares me more about MP's and Mojo's posts:

The image of Gene Simmons in waders, or the image of what I think Mojo must look like dancing to Ted Nugent.

I think felt soles are a thing of the past and you will be hard pressed to find them within two years and they are definitely cleaner. I have yet to hear any real bad news about performance. Slick rock seems to suck regardless, but if they are better for hiking (which I do a fair share of) and are better getting out, that is good enough for me.

So I hear you guys saying to go ahead and cleat the soles? I don't walk a lot on real hard surfaces, but I do encounter sandy downhills and grassy hills and snow.
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I don't know what scares me more about MP's and Mojo's posts:

The image of Gene Simmons in waders, or the image of what I think Mojo must look like dancing to Ted Nugent.

I think felt soles are a thing of the past and you will be hard pressed to find them within two years and they are definitely cleaner. I have yet to hear any real bad news about performance. Slick rock seems to suck regardless, but if they are better for hiking (which I do a fair share of) and are better getting out, that is good enough for me.

So I hear you guys saying to go ahead and cleat the soles? I don't walk a lot on real hard surfaces, but I do encounter sandy downhills and grassy hills and snow.
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Going to get the Riversheds and put cleats in them. Thanks for all the info guys.

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I think you will be very happy with the Riversheds....best boots I have ever owned!
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Default Re: Vibram Soles

I own two pairs of Simms River Tech wading boots with felt bottoms. One pair I am currently using, and the other pair is brand new. I have trouble finding boots to fit (big feet) so when the opportunity came around to pick up a second pair of the same boots on a bargain sale I bought them - have never worn them. More and more locations continue to mandate non-felt boots - does anyone know if it is possible to replace a felt bottom with a lugged/Vibram sole?
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