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Old 07-06-2011, 06:11 PM
 
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I am looking for a new wading jacket and was trying to decide between Simms and Patagonia. Money isn't much of an issue; I generally like to buy once if I can help it.

Looking for something mostly for late fall - winter - early spring in the southeast. Something I can stand in for hours in a cold downpour. Will also use from time to time out West in the spring/summer.

Have considered the Patagonia DWJ, Guidewater, and SST ($450 does seem steep - is it THAT good?) vs the Guide or G3 Guide from Simms.

Anybody have a view?
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Old 07-06-2011, 06:36 PM
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Hello & welcome to the forum,

Yes I have a view on this issue, I'm not a guy who ignores the fact that quality outdoor gear is worth it's price but............. When I began shopping for a new jacket (well over a year ago) I ran into something regarding the pricing that made me stop and think. I was looking at the wide range of jackets offered by Simms and I'll keep this as simple as I can. I settled in looking at one that sold for 199.99 and another that sold for over 400. The problem arose when I began asking questions of the sales staff at the shop about the big difference in price between the two. I ask whether the 199.99 jacket would not keep me dry and was told "not as well as the G4 would". Here I started to have a problem, I started looking closely at the two garments. On examination I began to think that the 199.99 jacket was really sub standard in that for the money involved you didn't even get a double thick elbow material among other things. I started to think I was being worked by the manufacturer. By worked I mean that why, for 200 dollars would a jacket seem so disproportionately inferior to the one costing twice as much? I understand that for twice the price I should expect twice the quality but let's face a fact, 200 dollars is not exactly chump change. It makes no difference whether or not I can afford to pay the price, I was turned off by the obvious effort by the marketing people behind the jackets to push me toward the 400+ jacket. My thinking was and is that for 200 dollars you should be able to expect reasonable quality, performance and durability from a fishing jacket.

I have been wearing a Filson that I paid 200 dollars for almost 15 years ago and it is becoming thread bare with age. It has been good excepting the weather on Kodiak where winds and rain can make even a fresh waxed jacket leak at the seams. So I continued to look at jackets and finally bought a Red-Storm by Redington for 99 dollars. The jacket feels, fits, and looks better than the aforementioned 199.99 jacket and I expect it will work as well as any. I will put it to the test this year over on the island and if it preforms well I'll be posting praise. If it leaks badly, I'll just take it back for a refund and wax the old Filson again.

Bottom line, look at everything and make a decision based on hands on examination not marketing and sales pitches. I thought about ordering from web sites but nothing beats handling the garment, looking at the seams and trying them on.

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i have a patagonia guidewater jacket, love it! been through full on thunder showers and it kept me dry the whole time. absolutely awesome coat, plus patagonias guarantee is one of the best out there.


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Default Re: recommend a wading jacket

I strongly suggest after you decide on a jacket or two you like as well as the other I would then look on Ebay. Last year I bought a new Simms Jacket on Ebay from a well respected seller for far below retail, possibly even below wholesale.
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Look at the Redington Stratus II or Bow River jackets.

You can find lots of them on closeout right now.
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Last winter, I had every intention on picking up Simms jacket but I chose the SST last winter. I'm very pleased with it thus far. Simplicity and versitility is what I like about it. Packs down small, light enough for year round use and keeps me dry. Layer right underneath and it can be worn year round. It kept me dry in downpours, snowstorms and really cut the wind and did all very well. I wish this jacket had pit zips, it would be perfect.

I can't speak to the G3 other than the fact that in general I've always been very pleased with Simms.

Try them on if you're able to do so and go with what fits best, you may find that you like one over the other.
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