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Old 02-22-2014, 12:05 PM
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Ever thought of a pram? There are fly fishing specific prams out there. google fly fishing pram (no hot links for this boy!! lol) and you'll find all kinds...very light, not too expensive. If I were soloing on warm water ponds and lakes (and didn't use my canoe, which is how I go), I'd invest in a pram.

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+1 here with Gary. 8' prams are very common on the lower Chetco River (SW Oregon) for the fall King Salmon fishing. Majority of the casting is done from a seated position, but what the heck it works just fine.

Only twiddly thing with the above is the guys will anchor up in a 'Hog Line' that can stretch half way across the river in low water. Best time to fish is an hour before high tide (tide goes up over a mile) till the end of the out flow.
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I had never heard of a pram until a few minutes ago. It seems to share the jon characteristics.
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they do come in 2-person versions...lightness, think lightness.
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Old 02-22-2014, 12:28 PM
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they do come in 2-person versions...lightness, think lightness.
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Light is very good. 10ft Jon will weigh about 105#. I think my wide 14ft canoe which looked more like a kayak was 70# or so. It's nice if it can be carried/dragged a few hundred feet when necessary. Throw in the back of a pickup or perhaps on the roof of my Jeep Cherokee. Not looking for a big adventure rig, but some portability is a nice feature. Right now I launch a 17ft Alumacraft walleye boat, and then putt around the lake on a trolling motor because my big motor is not allowed on most flyfishing water around here (nor should it be allowed). It's just extreme overkill when I am not on big water.
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Old 02-22-2014, 12:52 PM
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I had never heard of a pram until a few minutes ago. It seems to share the jon characteristics.
Very similar, just a heck of a lot shorter. Usually made out of wood and some of those are made out of (plywood faced) 'exotic woods.' God those are beautiful to see.

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i have a 10ft v hull row boat i use on larger rivers. I have a small 6hp outboard. A trolling motor is only like 1/4-1/2hp for comparison. if you have any distance to go i'd go small outboard. its a more efficient design, much more energy in a gallon of gas vs a 12volt battery. get one that has a integral gas tank. Can fish with 2 people in the boat. only one fishing at a time as i'm fishing rivers and someone has to control the boat as you float down river anyways. but could fish 2 at a time if both are aware of the others casting direction. my boat is small and light enough that i can drag it over log jams and trailer it easily by myself. keep it as small as you can, easier to handle.
i'd forget about canoes, to unstable, too easily blown about by the wind, not really good for fishing from.
i coated the bottom of my boat with truck bed liner. i wouldn't carpet it. i don't see noise as a issue for me as i stand still when casting. not walking around or moving your feet around when you casting.

now if your going to fish big lakes then that's another discussion.
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These things are more stable than a 16 ft john boat even,,,the 10 ft has room for two,,and a troller will push it wonderfully. You can stand up, or fish from the swivel seats. I love mine,,sold my jon boat after I fly fished from this a couple times. Plastic, super quiet to move around on,,,and super stable. I use a small 8ft trailer and even if i cant access a boat ramp all i need is close,..slide it off and slide it to the water. I use a kayak some,,but this ..to me,,is the perfect fly fishing tool for small lakes and non-whitewater rivers.

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I'd cover the whole front half in ply wood and carpet it... Make for a better casting area... Otherwise slap a motor on it and a little troller and you're set
That boat is getting pretty heavy!

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That boat is getting pretty heavy!

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It can get that way fast. I have a 50# thrust troller I shortened the shaft on and I have powered a 14' V with it many times. It will be more than enough. If not, I took the wrong boat. Anything that need a gas motor is not being considered. The casting deck idea is very worthwhile IMO, but has to be well designed to keep the weight down. It can also be test fit for a trial run.

My uncle had a plastic bass buggy years ago so I am skeptical of that in anything but dead still water. He was a big boy too though. I can see it being a great one man rig for the proper water. The jon has the huge advantage of tip it upside down outside with no care and it will still live 30+ years. Anything plastic needs to be out of the sun. I have enough toys outside to tend to as it is.

Thanks for all the ideas guys. They all have merit for a particular situation.
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These things are more stable than a 16 ft john boat even,,,the 10 ft has room for two,,and a troller will push it wonderfully. You can stand up, or fish from the swivel seats. I love mine,,sold my jon boat after I fly fished from this a couple times. Plastic, super quiet to move around on,,,and super stable. I use a small 8ft trailer and even if i cant access a boat ramp all i need is close,..slide it off and slide it to the water. I use a kayak some,,but this ..to me,,is the perfect fly fishing tool for small lakes and non-whitewater rivers.

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I've checked these out a couple times in the past... Just how stable are they? How do you handle one on a river? There's no places for oars?

I cannot swim and ultimate stability is a must... For peace of mind...

Often I can find these boats on Craigslist for less than $500
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