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Old 08-09-2012, 12:22 PM
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Default ? Flies work Montana Creek in Late Sept?

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Can I get some advice on what flies to fish with in a Central Montana Creek
in Late September?

(About an Hour West of Billings)

I don't know what to use. Can I use Caddis Nymphs?
Hopper Imitations? The humble Wooly Bugger?
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I have had great luck with Parachute Adams in size 12 Rock Creek, the Stillwater, and the Boulder during that time. Hopper season is usually over or on the wane at that time but it depends on the year. Good luck!
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Default Re: ? Flies work Montana Creek in Late Sept?

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Hopper season is usually over or on the wane at that time but it depends on the year.
Would you say that's generally the case throughout the whole state, including in the southwestern parts of Montana like the Big Hole, Madison, & Gallatin ?
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Here is a hatch chart for western Montana. I could not pin one down for your specific region. But this one was consistent with others that I found.

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Would you say that's generally the case throughout the whole state, including in the southwestern parts of Montana like the Big Hole, Madison, & Gallatin ?
Hey jim,

I would say we have hoppers until that first cold snap. You'll still see a few hardy buggers crawling around but not as many as there once was after that.

With that said there calling for another warmer winter so they may last until October, they might not. Its all up to mother nature.
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I would definitely have to defer to others re: the western MT rivers and agree every year is different. You can't go wrong with having several hopper and attractor patterns. My experience in MT was summer was more July through September, so the first cold snap can come quite late. I would say it's better to have and not need than need and not have.
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Default Re: ? Flies work Montana Creek in Late Sept?

Thanks for the help:


My researches produce the following recommendations, generally for the Rocky Mountains and some specifically for Montana in Late summer, if I have not made errrors in collecting my data.

DRIES:

Especially, Parachute Adams, Elkhair Caddis (or Caddis generally?),

Wooly Worm.

Also: Blue Wing Olive, Pale Morning Dun, Madam X

with TERRESTRIALS: Hopper, Cricket etc.

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NYMPHS:

Hare's Ear Natural Pheasant Tail (not sure on the title of that one)
Prince, Hare's Ear Flashbacks and Scud (Not sure what color is proper)

Black Stone, Brown Stone,


BEADHEADS

Hare's Ear Beadhead, Pheasant Tail Beadhead,
Peacock, Copper John, (K) Stone Brown (What is "K"?)

Black Woolybugger


Black Rubber (Don't know what that is)

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and STREAMERS as follows:

Crawdad (for general purposes, I added this)

Rainbow Trout Epoxy, Silver Darter Epoxy,


[and I am unsure about the recommendations for several I recognize as
"tradition" streamers such as Grey Ghost, Ghost Black, Mickey Finn,
Hornberg ...] Do I really need these?

I have to either tie all of these or buy them, and to buy all would be too expensive. I am confident of being able to tie at least half of them, the only exception being the small emergers & nymphs etc.

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Any advice about your personal preferences, such as eliminating some of these, or adding others, would be much appreciated.

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Looks like a good start. I would add Griffiths gnat and the buzzball to that list. Creek fish seem to love Griffiths gnats and the buzzball just looks like about anything that's dead In the water.

A general just olive scud works great on any body of water any time of year for me really.

A beadheaded streamer would be a good choice for streamer fishing as well. Muddled minnows should be good that time as well.
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brucer: don't stress about having all the "right" flies. In the end of September fish are done with selective feeding to heavy hatches and are on the instinctual gorge to fatten up before winter. It is great fishing!

By then, the hopper and terrestrial fishing will be petering out. I would not worry about carrying a bunch of hopper imitations. And there aren't crickets in Montana, btw. Rather I'd take a couple of my favorite attractors in sizes #12-14, a high rider like the Stimulator and a low rider, either Madam X or Tarantulas. These will fool fish remembering hoppers or thinking about the big caddis.

Depending on the creek, if it gets decent hatches then the BWO is a yes. #18 Adams could suffice, or use whatever you like. Again, I'd carry a light color and one dark color mayfly imitation. If the stream has a reputation for good hatches, I'd add a variety of patterns; i.e. Comparaduns, parachutes, and standard. But any PMD hatch is going to be pretty light and sporadic at this point.

PT and Hare's Ear nymphs will generally suffice. Make some unweighted with just a soft hackle collar to fish as an mayfly emerger/cripple/diving caddis.

Spruce Moths in the fall can provide excellent fishing if this stream is wooded you'll need some #12 light bleached elk hair caddis or have some of the Madam Xs in a light color.

You do not need to worry about the streamer variety, again some dark and light, bright and dull, and don't neglect small streamers, down to #10-12.
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Default Re: ? Flies work Montana Creek in Late Sept?

Thanks Dean.

The Madam X is a fly that I had decided to tie, and your other advice helps me narrow the choices.

I wonder if there are any Stoneflies active around 1 October?
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