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Old 11-10-2012, 02:36 PM
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Default Personal variations to flies

Everybody knows the popular flies such as clousers deep minnow or a zonker and their are a trillion different color schemes to them but what do variations do you apply to your flies that make them unique? also why have you made these changes; what is the advantage of them?

When i tie leftys deceivers i use a lot of different in one. I tie on 4 feathers in the beginning tie in kyrstal flash then a feather on each side that are fatter than the previous then i tie tinsel to the side. What i do next is really what makes the fly for me. I pamler marabou tie it off and pull it back and make wraps in from of it. It makes the fly breathe and adds a ton of action. Also i cover thread wraps with doll eyes so it adds a slight rattle.
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Old 11-10-2012, 07:24 PM
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Like the palmered marabou effect Robert!
For me anything I tie for saltwater has to have pearl flashabou somewhere in it . Whether a little or alot it's a confidence thing for me and it's never let me down! Clousers, Decievers ,Streamers , Minnow Patterns even crab and shrimp patterns a little flash'll do ya!
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I am big on flash to sometimes a little too much. Angel hair flash is nice. I also always add eyes to my flies to protect thread wraps from barracuda and also to attract fish.
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I hybridized a clouser and a marabou leech. I wrap the marabou up the body without a stem in a dubbing loop. Very durable Bass and Walleye clobbering fly.

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That's awesome. I know you also do alot of uv stuff Dan.
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Fly recipes are like food recipes. There are classics that can't be changed and to do so makes them something else. Oysters Rockefeller becomes oysters with spinach and a royal coachman is renamed a royal Wulff. (capital W)
Other recipes are just styles of cooking or tying and to copy exactly what the next guy is doing is akin to plagiarism. I don't make my chili or barbeque sauce like my neighbor does and neither do you.

In somewhat the same vein, I have met Bob Clouser and I can assure you that he is a real person and that "Clouser" is his proper name.
Personally, as a sigh of respect I prefer to spell his name with a capital "C"
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One of my favorite little flies for some of the front range creeks I first tied as an attempt to copy another pattern from memory. When I looked at the original again some time later I realized that what I have been tying is really rather different and I like it better. Happy accident.
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I feel we all end up tying in our own style anyway, and no matter how we vary a style, it's still not ours. To me a Deceiver is a Deceiver, and is still Lefty's. A Clouser is still the design of Bob Clouser, and is not mine.

However, I like to experiment & many flies I tie are variations. I don't have a set way of tying any pattern, and tie more on whim. Although I do try to tie with a purpose no matter what pattern that may be.

I like adding rabbit strips to Clouser Minnows, and I also like to add lots of flash to most baitfish patterns. My reasoning is that rabbit strips add length that is not always obtainable with bucktail, and also adds a different type of motion & action to the fly. In this way I feel the fly can easily imitate a wider variety of prey, and in the waters I fish, that could be a baitfish or even an eel. I believe when a fly imitates more than one type of prey species, you may increase your chances of success.

For the flash, the majority of the fishing I do is in brackish water that has a tannic stain to it, so the flash gets the fly noticed. If I fished in clearer water I might be inclined to reduce the amount of flash, but so far cannot say I use too much. Plus, many of the baitfish in those waters have a lot of flash to them, so it makes sense to me to mimic that flash.
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Fly recipes are like food recipes. There are classics that can't be changed and to do so makes them something else. Oysters Rockefeller becomes oysters with spinach and a royal coachman is renamed a royal Wulff. (capital W)
Other recipes are just styles of cooking or tying and to copy exactly what the next guy is doing is akin to plagiarism. I don't make my chili or barbeque sauce like my neighbor does and neither do you.

In somewhat the same vein, I have met Bob Clouser and I can assure you that he is a real person and that "Clouser" is his proper name.
Personally, as a sigh of respect I prefer to spell his name with a capital "C"
I disagree. I feel that flies army an exact recipe but more of a style of tieing. As long as one doesn't deviate from the main parts them it is ok. If you replace bucktail with say superhair on a clouser. It still has the clouser style .
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This is still a Reynold's Pike fly, but I did change the head. I cover the tread for the weed gaurd with 5 min. epoxy. Everything else is covered in leather except the head. By adding the heart bead, it makes a bigger profile head end removes the last tooth vulnerable spot on the fly. I epoxy that on also. These are pretty close to bullet proof.
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