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Old 12-29-2012, 04:30 PM
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Default tiemco 811s vs Gama SL11-3h hook for bonefish

Which is is better for bonefish? I know both hooks are good, but which hook is sharper and stronger?

I 've lost tons of huge fish this month on the mustad3407 due to lack of penetration and straightening.. Need a new brand of hooks.. Thanks
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Better is subjective. I don't recall ever straightening a 3407. I've bent a few, but then that was on Striped Bass & Bluefish.

If it makes any difference, the Tiemco 811s is a stainless hook, while that Gama is carbon steel with a tinned finish. IMO, carbon steel hooks usually stay sharper longer than stainless, and with these types of hooks, are often slightly stronger when the wire diameter is the same.
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Better is subjective. I don't recall ever straightening a 3407. I've bent a few, but then that was on Striped Bass & Bluefish.

If it makes any difference, the Tiemco 811s is a stainless hook, while that Gama is carbon steel with a tinned finish. IMO, carbon steel hooks usually stay sharper longer than stainless, and with these types of hooks, are often slightly stronger when the wire diameter is the same.
Yeah, a 3407 wouldn't straighten on any bonefish.
You gotta sharpen them though. I use a Dremel tool.
Where I fish, the plated hooks always hold up better than stainless, even though they rust. It's a trade off and you need to decide what's best for you.
Personally I rarely tie with stainless
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I don't have any issues with stainless, except they've gotten quite expensive compared to tinned hooks. I'll still buy them & use them when I can get them at a good price, but have been getting away from them somewhat. Personally, I've become very fond of VMC 9255 hooks, which are a plated hook & similar to the Mustad 3407, but IMO a stronger & sharper hook straight from the package. I don't mind sharpening hooks & don't worry about the rusting either.
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I personally love the gamakatsu sl45
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We tie our Tarpon flies exclusively on the 811s.
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