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Old 09-03-2013, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: TFO BVK or Mangrove?

I have both rods in 8wt's. I like them both for different reasons. The taper profile is not anywhere close to the same. The BVK is a fast action, with a fairly progressive flex tip to butt. No lifting power at all which is why many people break this model. It casts well once you find the sweat spot.

The Mangrove is completely different, and it incorporates the Titanium coating that they use on the TiCr and TiCrX rods. This makes it much more durable. IT was designed by "Flip" (excuse my spelling) to have a soft fast loading front third, and a heavier stouter butt for lifting. I happen to love it for Redfish.

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After reading all these replys I'm definitely going to try the Mangrove! I have several BVKs and I found out about the lifting and breaking aspect the hard way when Salmon fishing! The Mangrove sounds interesting!
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Default Re: TFO BVK or Mangrove?

Thanks for all the great replys! I'm trying to find a shop here in Dallas that would carry the Mangrove so I could cast it, I stopped off at Cabela's and Bass Pro and didn't find it at either location. I know TFO is based out of Fort Worth but I'm not sure if they allow visitors to the warehouse or not.
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Thanks for all the great replys! I'm trying to find a shop here in Dallas that would carry the Mangrove so I could cast it, I stopped off at Cabela's and Bass Pro and didn't find it at either location. I know TFO is based out of Fort Worth but I'm not sure if they allow visitors to the warehouse or not.
Call them. I would bet they invite you.
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Default Re: TFO BVK or Mangrove?

Great rods, but you'll have to cast them. Remember in the salt there are two contradictory needs. One is the ummph to throw big/heavy flies in the wind, and the other is being able to do it for hours without beating yourself up. For reds and sea trout you are going to be throwing lots of lead eye #2 clousers and the like, but you aren't going to be dealing with really big fish either so you don't need the lifting power you would if you were chasing Bonita or snook.. Throw both with a fly of that type if they'll let you and go from there. Have fun shopping.
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Default Re: TFO BVK or Mangrove?

I may be out of my muddy freshwater element, but I own a 7wt BVK and a 7wt TiCR X. The BVK is a great rod for casting all day because it is light and casts very nice. I have not tried a Mangrove, but I can tell you that the BVK does a fine job. However, in lifting power, you may want to check out the Mangrove or TiCR X. I've caught many large carp (Not a salt fish, but we all know they fight like crazy.) and I did feel the BVK felt a little lacking in lifting ability. Not saying that it wouldn't work, or do it well, but I can tell you that there's a trade-off. Other rods may have better lifting power, but they can give your arm a work-out, where the BVK may be a bit more gentle.

I use both for different places I fish. When I have to launch the bugs a country mile and do it often, BVK gets loaded that day. When I'm short casting all day chasing monsters, the TiCR X is a beast and puts the hurt on them.
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Default Re: TFO BVK or Mangrove?

Hi,
this is my first post here, but I have to come to an american board in order to get some good inforamtions about the new mangrove rods.

I am looking for a 10 wt rod for my ambush TT 400 grains line. I use the ambush TT line in 290 grains with my BVK #8 and I love this combination but for my biggest pikeflies I would like to use something heavier.

I was thinking about a 10WT BVK but a little less tip action could be good when I try to land a pike from a kayak.

Do you think the mangrove could be the right rod for this situations?
And one more questions? Is the handle of the mangrove realy only about 16 cm??
Seems to be a little short for such a strong rod; hope my hands are not to big.

Thanks in advance.

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please excuse my bad english
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