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flymoron 10-28-2013 08:35 PM

new to the salt
 
i will be fly fishing the surf for the first time this spring, looking for a new rig, i was planning on buying a salt reel, do i need any other special precautions? i plan on fishing it in freshwater the rest of the time.

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fq13 10-28-2013 09:58 PM

Re: new to the salt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flymoron (Post 605701)
i will be fly fishing the surf for the first time this spring, looking for a new rig, i was planning on buying a salt reel, do i need any other special precautions? i plan on fishing it in freshwater the rest of the time.

flymoron


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Where are you fishing and what are you fishing for? Those are the two key questions.
PS, The lines between fresh and salt reels are blurred these days. With modern quality reels if you rinse and lube them religiously a good freshwater reel will do fine.

flymoron 10-29-2013 06:05 AM

Re: new to the salt
 
florida panhandle/gulf shores in the spring, i thought i would try for whiting?

fq13 10-29-2013 06:14 AM

Re: new to the salt
 
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Originally Posted by flymoron (Post 605759)
florida panhandle/gulf shores in the spring, i thought i would try for whiting?

I'd look at an eight to ten weight in a fast action, it will also work for snook and bass. And use a good stripping basket, I learned that one the hard way. Figure clousers or epoxy headed streamers in the surf, so you want a rod that will turn them over, but not kick your butt to cast. As to reels anything that will hold 150_200 yards of 20 pound dacron with a decent drag will do.

von behr 10-29-2013 08:53 AM

Re: new to the salt
 
An 8-wt with fast action will provide a good all around platform for most surf fishing. It will cut through the wind and provide enough backbone to fight fish in rough water conditions. This is a good time to check out the Xi3 from Sage. I've seen them discounted recently, and it looks like Sage has introduced a new saltwater rod, which I assume is replacing the Xi3. That would mean close out prices may be in the cards.

The Xi3 is purpose-built for the salt and has a very smooth, fast action. It is a wonderful rod to cast with the right line married to it.

As far as reels, it depends on your budget. Most of today's reels out there will fit the bill as long as you follow fq13's advice and give them proper care. Keep in mind that the higher end saltwater reels were designed and built to withstand many years of harsh conditions.

Once you fish the surf, you'll likely want to make a habit of doing so. My advice would be to invest in gear that will do the job consistently without fail.

I use my surf gear for largemouth bass as well, so your rig does not have to be a one-trick pony.

My rigs are Sage Xi3 and Z-Axis rods with Abel and Ross reels. Tibor, Bauer, Nautilus, Charlton, Hatch, Hardy, and Galvan also make quality reels that will keep you smiling out there and have the reputations of solid companies that will back up that investment you make with good customer service.

Good luck.

-VB

SkipS 10-29-2013 10:30 AM

Re: new to the salt
 
I would also recommend an 8wt for your needs.An 8wt covers more bases in FW and SW better than any other rod weight.It will handle anything your likely to catch in the surf and it makes a great bass rod in FW.I see no reason to go any heavier.

itchmesir 10-29-2013 10:43 AM

Re: new to the salt
 
Check out the Redington predator 8wt... Such awesome rods... Wish I owned more.

thebunky_1974 02-22-2014 09:09 AM

Re: new to the salt
 
We travel there every summer and I usually find a cheap bait caster river type rig to take. I usually spend $75 or so.

This year I want to find a fly combo to take but also keep as an investment. Those bait caster combos I buy at Academy Sports usually don't make the trip home due to the salt and sand corrosion. There's only so much a can of WD-40 will do.

Anyway, on this fly rod/reel setup I'm wondering about length. I've been looking at the combo at the link, an Orvis Access, but the 9 foot length has me concerned about my back cast and hitting the sand. I'm wondering if I need to look at a 10 feet spey rod instead.

Saltwater Fly Rod Outfit / Access 908-4 Fly Rod Outfit—Tip Flex -- Orvis

This will be the primary use for this setup. I have an 8 wt TFO/Redington setup for my Bass and Carp needs.

The only other concern is the wind. While bait fishing, I usually throw a 1oz shad so that I can get it as close to the second sandbar as possible or over it. The second sandbar is what I call the shallow area just before the gradual drop off to the deeper waters of the gulf.

Will the 8 wt line be easy to cast into the constant wind down there?

Thanks, I'll hang up and listen...

rpene 02-22-2014 09:59 AM

Re: new to the salt
 
I have a abel 13 wt rod and reel that I have never used I would like to sale

waterfordcreek 04-11-2014 02:04 AM

Re: new to the salt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flymoron (Post 605759)
florida panhandle/gulf shores in the spring, i thought i would try for whiting?

I think It's also called sand trout.

Agreed...an 8 wt would be ideal.

Dont just concentrate on the beaches. Mouths of residential canals, Bridges....you can usually find good wading opps. at most Florida parks along the coast.

Spring is a transition time. The timing will be weather related. Water temp, moon phase, tides, pressure...will all play a roll daily.

Make sure you on moving water...and you have won half the battle.


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