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Old 12-09-2013, 03:43 PM
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Hello guys ! I spent a good part of my last weekend inside (high temperature outside was about 10 degrees F.) learning to tie the knots that Lefty recommends in his book. All good with tying the knots on 10 lb. tippet material, but when tying the same knots on 20 lb. mono, I need to use needle-nosed pliers to pull 'em nice and tight - as recommended in Lefty's book. However, after getting these knots tied I find the pliers have left nicks in the mono line. Do these nicks not weaken the strength of the line ? Is there a way to use the pliers that avoids nicking the mono ? Or should I knot worry about the nicks and just concentrate on learning to tie the knots nice and tight ?

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. However, after getting these knots tied I find the pliers have left nicks in the mono line. Do these nicks not weaken the strength of the line ? Is there a way to use the pliers that avoids nicking the mono ? Or should I knot worry about the nicks and just concentrate on learning to tie the knots nice and tight ?Kingfish
Oh yeah they do. Only use the teeth of the pliers to grip the tags ends that will be cut off.
If you need to pull on a standing line, wrap the mono around the full pliers jaws a couple of times and trap it there with your thumb.... then pull.

Did you try a Bimini Twist ? That's the coolest knot and worth playing with even if you never use one.
Try it, you'll see.
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Hey Rip Tide, aha ! I will use your trick, thanks much.
I was going to mention in my initial post that I saved mastering the Bimini twist for another day... thought I'd first try and build up a little confidence on the easier ones before I went for the 20 twisting 'round the knee, double Ys, three-handed back-sliding half-hitching twister - that takes two pages of drawings to explain...


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I was going to mention in my initial post that I saved mastering the Bimini twist for another day... thought I'd first try and build up a little confidence on the easier ones before I went for the 20 twisting 'round the knee, double Ys, three-handed back-sliding half-hitching twister - that takes two pages of drawings to explain...Kingfish
It's actually much easier than it sounds and there's a bit of a "magic trick" involved.... trust me.

stick something between your knees to hold the loop... a piece of wood or something
the way that Lefty describes, using your knee to make the loop, sucks
even your big toe works better
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