The North American Fly Fishing Forum


Go Back   The North American Fly Fishing Forum > Fly Fishing in the United States > Southeast U.S.

Southeast U.S. Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and North Carolina. Post fishing reports, ask for information, discuss this area...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 05-16-2011, 03:03 PM
possessed's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Race City USA, NC
Posts: 117
possessed is just really nicepossessed is just really nicepossessed is just really nicepossessed is just really nicepossessed is just really nice
Default It's weenie time

As I was driving up the Forest Road today, green worms were falling out of the trees and landing on my truck. Although I knew a weenie would be the ticket, I started with a standard wolfe and BHHE dropper. After about 20 minutes and nothing but a single rise to the dry, I tied on a #12 foam winged caddis and a #10 BH green weenie. I was quickly in to the fish.


Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.

A hatchery brook trout. I was fishing a wild stream. The stream I was fishing is a tributary of a stocked stream. The stocked water is 5 miles downstream with numerous barrier falls. Did this guy really swim that far up or is he a product of "bucket biology"? We have had a lot of high water, so I guess it's possible he swam that far and was able to get up and over all the barriers. I have caught bunch of fish in the stream and this is the first ever hatchery fish I have encountered.

Click the image to open in full size.

I am also thinking this guy looks a bit like a stocker, but he could be wild.

Click the image to open in full size.

The rainbows love the weenie.

Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.

This brown is no monster, but he was the best fish of the day.

Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.

A few more pics.

Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.

No monsters, but the numbers were good. They were very aggressive, striking with great vengeance and furious anger. No fish were caught on the dry, all on the weenie. I had a few strikes and hookups on the dry, but none landed.
__________________
Wild troutin', blue linin', fly flingin', camo wearin', redneckin' elitist.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 05-16-2011, 03:54 PM
mcnerney's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Pinedale, WY
Posts: 12,748
Blog Entries: 36
mcnerney has a reputation beyond reputemcnerney has a reputation beyond reputemcnerney has a reputation beyond reputemcnerney has a reputation beyond reputemcnerney has a reputation beyond reputemcnerney has a reputation beyond reputemcnerney has a reputation beyond reputemcnerney has a reputation beyond reputemcnerney has a reputation beyond reputemcnerney has a reputation beyond reputemcnerney has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: It's weenie time

Possessed: Congrats on the great looking fish, looks like the green weenie saved the day!

Larry
__________________
Larry

Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 05-16-2011, 05:30 PM
Hardyreels's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Wasilla / Skwentna, Alaska
Posts: 11,412
Blog Entries: 69
Hardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Yahoo to Hardyreels Send a message via Skype™ to Hardyreels
Default Re: It's weenie time

Looks like a fun day. The best advice I can offer on whether a fish is wild or the result of stocking is to check the teeth. Stock trout and wild trout of comparable size will have a drastic difference in development of teeth. The stock fish will have teeth similar to #40 grid sandpaper while the stream born fish will have real teeth. I don't know the exact cause for this phenomenon but my best 'educated guess' is the rapid growth rate of the hatchery reared fish. The body quite likely grows disproportionately to the ability for the animals ability to produce the teeth to match. You can look at the fins, the coloration and if harvested, you can check the coloration of the flesh but I go to the teeth first. I could get more technical than that with my guess work but if you start to check them out you'll get the idea of what I'm saying here.

Ard
__________________
Anywhere can be the land of great expectations, broken dreams, or paradise found, it's all up to you.

Life On The Line - Alaska Fishing with Ard

The Alaska Fishing & Outdoors Blog;
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 05-16-2011, 05:44 PM
possessed's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Race City USA, NC
Posts: 117
possessed is just really nicepossessed is just really nicepossessed is just really nicepossessed is just really nicepossessed is just really nice
Default Re: It's weenie time

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hardyreels View Post
Looks like a fun day. The best advice I can offer on whether a fish is wild or the result of stocking is to check the teeth. Stock trout and wild trout of comparable size will have a drastic difference in development of teeth. The stock fish will have teeth similar to #40 grid sandpaper while the stream born fish will have real teeth. I don't know the exact cause for this phenomenon but my best 'educated guess' is the rapid growth rate of the hatchery reared fish. The body quite likely grows disproportionately to the ability for the animals ability to produce the teeth to match. You can look at the fins, the coloration and if harvested, you can check the coloration of the flesh but I go to the teeth first. I could get more technical than that with my guess work but if you start to check them out you'll get the idea of what I'm saying here.

Ard
I appreciate the info. I never knew that about the teeth. It's usually pretty easy to tell the NC stockers from the wild ones. The rainbow is questionable because his color is lacking a bit. His tail and fins looked like that of a wild fish.

The brook is no doubt a stocker. The stockers here have no color, as the one in the pic. Also, there are no brook trout in the stream I was fishing. Logging extirpated them many years ago.

Our natives look like this, no mistaking them for a stocker.

Click the image to open in full size.
__________________
Wild troutin', blue linin', fly flingin', camo wearin', redneckin' elitist.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 05-16-2011, 09:17 PM
Hardyreels's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Wasilla / Skwentna, Alaska
Posts: 11,412
Blog Entries: 69
Hardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond reputeHardyreels has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Yahoo to Hardyreels Send a message via Skype™ to Hardyreels
Default Re: It's weenie time

The tooth thing is nothing that I have ever read anywhere but the result of years of observation between wild strains of brown and brook trout (Native) where I grew up too. With the brown trout it was more evident than with the brookies but by the time a brook trout would reach 9" they had some real teeth on those jaws also. Here they all have a good mouthful. We have no brook trout but a north west relative, the Dolly Varden Char.

If you would like to pick up a very informative book about the brook trout get yourself a copy of "Brook Trout" by Nick Karas. His historical accounting of this wonderful species of char is great knowledge to take in. I thought I knew pretty much about them until I got my book from him. It was then that I decided I would need to go fish in Carmans' River on Long Island in order to have a well rounded brook trout experience. Did you know that Long Island New York used to be one of the most famous brook trout fisheries in America? I didn't till I read the book, you seem like a guy who enjoys knowing things and this may be right up your alley.

Ard

Ard
__________________
Anywhere can be the land of great expectations, broken dreams, or paradise found, it's all up to you.

Life On The Line - Alaska Fishing with Ard

The Alaska Fishing & Outdoors Blog;
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 05-16-2011, 09:41 PM
wt bash's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Akron Ohio (don't let that fool you)
Posts: 1,988
wt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant futurewt bash has a brilliant future
Default Re: It's weenie time

Nice man! I love Green Weenies! Try one tied like a San Juan with no weight and a dab of gink, FUN STUFF!
__________________
Oh I live to be the ruler of life not a slave
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 05-16-2011, 11:17 PM
Jimmie's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Upper Mojave Desert
Posts: 1,796
Jimmie has a brilliant futureJimmie has a brilliant futureJimmie has a brilliant futureJimmie has a brilliant futureJimmie has a brilliant futureJimmie has a brilliant futureJimmie has a brilliant futureJimmie has a brilliant futureJimmie has a brilliant futureJimmie has a brilliant futureJimmie has a brilliant future
Default Re: It's weenie time

Your's, and others pictures of the "green weenie" will make a guy a beleiver. I was sitting here thinking that I'll try it as a dropper this summer in some of the high Sierra pocket water. Now to tie a few.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 05-17-2011, 12:20 AM
caseywise's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: sycamore, illinois
Posts: 4,264
Blog Entries: 1
caseywise has a reputation beyond reputecaseywise has a reputation beyond reputecaseywise has a reputation beyond reputecaseywise has a reputation beyond reputecaseywise has a reputation beyond reputecaseywise has a reputation beyond reputecaseywise has a reputation beyond reputecaseywise has a reputation beyond reputecaseywise has a reputation beyond reputecaseywise has a reputation beyond reputecaseywise has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Yahoo to caseywise
Default Re: It's weenie time

the "green weenie" is hands down the best bluegill fly ive ever used. many 50+ days on it.

never used it for trout but its rigged on my 4 weight for a trout excursion tomorrow.

it is a very productive pattern



casey
__________________


ARFE
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Long time fisherman first time fly chuck145 Member Introductions 8 11-29-2012 06:12 PM
Pink Weenie Recipe franzenangler General Discussion 11 11-22-2010 11:57 AM
Pink Weenie franzenangler Coldwater Fly Fishing 3 07-10-2010 09:16 PM
It’s like Alan Jackson sings, “I wanna have fun. It’s time for a good time.” A good t Fish Bones The Daily Papers 0 06-05-2009 02:44 AM
First time out axle27 General Discussion 0 09-02-2008 09:40 PM













All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
2005-2014 The North American Fly Fishing Forum. All rights reserved.