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Old 02-18-2012, 01:51 PM
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Does it really work? Anyone get hit any way?
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yep works....you don't want to get stung, know a guy who did and it tooks months to heal very painful..
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I'll second it working, they don't want to be near whatever is causing the big disturbance. It is a very stubborn, typically very large stingray if it doesn't spook from the disturbance the shuffle creates from quite far off. I've seen some GIANT Atlantic stingrays while diving, and even they don't like people getting in their area. People usually get pricked when they surprise the stingray and end up stepping on or near it. It's the surf disturbance in the water that prevents stingrays from detecting incoming footfalls, so the shuffling gives them a bit more warning so they can get out of there.
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Yes. I've kicked up many that were within 3' of my feet, though they often kick from further off.

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If the Simms boot had been out at the time, I'd probably have picked them though-

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Yeah I really don't want to have to wear any boots. A few years ago I caught a small ray from shore and cut the line but the S@& kept coming toward me- either stupid or trying to sting me. That's why I asked, if you actually slide your foot into a ray I would think it would sting you. Do you usually wade in areas where you can see your feet? Do you see the rays or are they hidden in sand?
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The rays cover themselves in sand, but sometimes you can still see them. Usually not though. The shuffle isn't a matter of changing the way you encounter the ray (though it does that as well) but more of a way of making sure the ray knows you are coming. It would be very strange indeed if the ray were actively seeking you out to sting you, especially since they risk losing their stinger in the process, since it is barbed.
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I thought you shuffled so you bumped a ray which made it move rather than step on it and pin it to the ground, but from what I understand the shuffling is to disturb the area and the ray takes off before you actually touch it- is that correct?
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I thought you shuffled so you bumped a ray which made it move rather than step on it and pin it to the ground, but from what I understand the shuffling is to disturb the area and the ray takes off before you actually touch it- is that correct?
Its both really. They're most likely to hit you if you step on top of them, and yes, they are able and quite skilled at doing that. If you're shuffling your feet and bump their edge instead of stepping down on them, they're more likely to scurry off. Just like a poisonous snake or other animal that can hurt you, they'll flee if they can, but fight if they feel threatened.

But yes, most of the time they'll scurry without contact if you're shuffling.

Keep in mind that seeing them is a good sign, as they eat lots of the same food that redfish and other gamefish do. If there's food for one, there's food for another, and redfish will commonly follow cruising rays around, picking up what the ray misses..
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Thanks, well then it's the shuffle.
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