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There has been a lot of confusion when it comes to the difference between spey and single hand lines. I found something that I think may help in understanding what spey lines are and how they work. Hope this helps somebody out.
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IMHO, the head of the line shouldn't be more than about 4.1 X the length of the spey rod.

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There has been a lot of confusion when it comes to the difference between spey and single hand lines. I found something that I think may help in understanding what spey lines are and how they work. Hope this helps somebody out.
Dan
http://www.rioproducts.com/photos/fi...nes%202011.pdf
Dan,
Thanks!
A lot of good info. I just happened to win a drawing for a St.Croix 11' 6wt Switch Rod blank at the Rod building Show last month in HighPoint NC.
This one will be mine!

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IMHO, the head of the line shouldn't be more than about 4.1 X the length of the spey rod.

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So far all my lines fall within that, But I have plans that will far exceed the rod x 4.1 max head length. I have not decided on the rod exactly yet, but it is going to be a 10/11 wt. and at least 16 feet long. 17 would be perfect, but I may do a 16 because Meiser has a 16 foot Highlander blank that would be sweet. The reason for so long and heavy is to cast the Carron Jetstream Long Belly Line. It has an 85' head. Think about it. 17' of leader + 17' of rod + 85' of head = 119' just rolling the head out, Shoot another 40 or 50 feet of line and you are in the 160' or 170' zone. On a good day I can shoot more than that. Gordon Armstrong did a 222' cast with this line. Do I need to cast that far? Probably not, but dang! Think about it. How cool is that? With my Trevor Morgan 10/11 and my Albright 10/11 I can do 140' or a tad better. I can put 125's out into a wind with a clouser on it. I've done casts of 125' or so with a big stinking Pike fly on it. Can you imagine what you can do with head that's another 20 or 25 feet longer? One thing I also like is the length you can get the running lines. I don't know if you have ever tried to shoot backing, but it's a great way to end up with knots in it. I have an AirFlo Delta Tactical spey on my 8/9 wt. 15' Meiser. I can pull off all but a few turns ( I leave those to keep the backing from looping and knotting) and cast line and hit the reel hard. It needs to have a longer running line. The Trevor Morgan line is longer and I can't hit the end of that one. I going to keep working on doing it, but so far I can't. I have thought about cutting the head off my AirFlo and adding a new much longer running line. At this point I am going to drop in a preemptive answer to Why are you trying to cast that far? Because it's fun. It started off just because I fish really big water, but now I cast farther than need be, just for the fun factor. And that's the wole reason for the Carron Jetstream long belly line.

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Dan,
Thanks!
A lot of good info. I just happened to win a drawing for a St.Croix 11' 6wt Switch Rod blank at the Rod building Show last month in HighPoint NC.
This one will be mine!

Larry
You must get Rod Maker. Congrats by the way.

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Default Re: Understanding spey lines

The video above gave me a bad back just watching it!

If that does not put you off using an 85ft head nothing will. A massive (and pointless) waste of energy -- not to mention the terrible disturbance to the water.

Casting with a double handed long rod should be almost effortless and eerily quiet. If you can hear splashing and swooshing you are doing something wrong!

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The video above gave me a bad back just watching it!

If that does not put you off using an 85ft head nothing will. A massive (and pointless) waste of energy -- not to mention the terrible disturbance to the water.

Casting with a double handed long rod should be almost effortless and eerily quiet. If you can hear splashing and swooshing you are doing something wrong!

Colin
Yes, compared to the Javelin lines I have been using it is a noisy mess, but just the idea of a cast out in the 180' zone. ( I'm not thinking I can hit 222' like Armstrong, but.... ) It has no real practical purpose, but dang, how cool would it be?
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