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Old 11-05-2013, 12:14 PM
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Default Looking for a beginner switch rod

I've been tinkering about getting into the Switch rod for awhile and now I am going to take the plunge. I need some helps to choose the "right" rod and line for me. I am looking for 5 or 6 wt 11 ft switch rod for trout and bass for about $250. I don't have any brand preferences.

The intended use is for stillwater reservoirs/lakes/ponds. The depth is ranging from 2'~10' from the bank. I am mostly fishing size 4-10 streamers, wolly buggers, leeches, bass poppers <= 2/O and a little bit of the slip bobber-buzzers rig. I don't know if there is a single utility line that can cover this vast array of depths and applications. I might even going to use my 8wt Rio Outbound for single handed rod if I have to.

I've been reading about the Redington New Dually Switch rod and their new Rio Chucker line, and Rio switch line. Do you guys have any inputs about them? I heard that the Sage VXP, Cabelas LSI or TFO Deer Creek were also great but a tad higher than what I am willing to pay.

Fly shops are saying great stuffs about their stock products, but I need second opinions from this forum.
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Old 11-05-2013, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: Looking for a beginner switch rod

I started with a switch rod, which was a very nice rod, but I spent several months trying to learn two hand casting techniques was getting quite frustrated. I got an older, longer rod and the casting became much easier. Once I had learned the basics, casting the switch became fun instead of frustrating. If you only want one rod, I'd suggest getting as long a rod as you consider "switch." The switch aspect, I think, is more about the weight of the rod than the length. A 12'6" 5 wt rod will likely be light enough to cast overhead.
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Default Re: Looking for a beginner switch rod

You can get a Cabelas TLR Switch rod for about $100 right now

and one of their LSI Switch rods for about $150

Both get good reviews as beginner rods.
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You can get a Cabelas TLR Switch rod for about $100 right now

and one of their LSI Switch rods for about $150

Both get good reviews as beginner rods.
Nice, great pricing and great reviews as well. They are on top of my list now.
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Default Re: Looking for a beginner switch rod

I bought a TFO DC 11' 8wt an I absolutely love it.
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Default Re: Looking for a beginner switch rod

Allen had some listed on sale a week or so back. They weren't much more than the cabelas, sub $200. But then I started adding up all the costes of lines and heads and the like and decided to wait. But both the Cabelas and Allen sales are excellellent.
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I didn't know that Allen also have the switch rod. I do have 2 of their Kraken 3 reels and really liking them. Their customer service is beyond excellent I shall have a look at their switch.
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I didn't know that Allen also have the switch rod. I do have 2 of their Kraken 3 reels and really liking them. Their customer service is beyond excellent I shall have a look at their switch.
You have to go their deal of the week. Its the Olympic which they've disontinued while moving production to the US. What they have is what there is.
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Default Re: Looking for a beginner switch rod

I own a numer of double handers both spey and switch and have tried out most of the popular switch rods out there. At the $250 price point your options are very limited and you wont get a very good rod for that money. However, at the $350 price point there are some good options. the TFO deer creek is okay, its a bit stiff, heavy and clunky, for the same price you could get the redington prospector 11' 6 weight, this rod is a gem for the price, in fact I believe at this price point it is unbeatable in lightweight, livelyness and smoothness. Btw, given that you will be fishing with large flies you should definetely go with a 6 weight not a 5. I have a 5126 z-axis, and It's my go-to trout spey rod, but it doesn't handle large streamers very well, a 6 would make more sense for that.

At $410 you could get yourself the beulah classic 11'6 6/7 weight, or 10'6" 6 weight classic switch at $395. Beulah is a top notch company for double handers, everyone in the spey community knows these affordable rods are ranked with rods costing twice as much. Research beulah rods and you'll find out what I am talking about. A friend of mine fishes the beulah 6126 platinum which cost him $400 on closeout price, and it fishes almost as nicely as my $750 5126 z-axis, so again buelah is worth a hard look if your willing to pay $400.

As for the VXP, it doesn't come in a switch, only a spey, the 5120 which is more like a 6 weight. the vxp 6129 can handle a 450 grain skagit, so its not a true 6 at all and would be overgunned for your application. Again, given the amount of money your looking to spend, the reddington prospector 11' 6 weight switch at $365 or the beulah classic switch 10'6" 6 weight at $395 or classic spey 11'6" 6/7 weight at $410 are your best options in my opinion. I think price to performance ratio, the beulah 10'6" 6 weight switch is one of the best two handers on the market, that is hard to dispute. Let me know if you have any more specific questions about these rods, I have fished all of them.
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I own a numer of double handers both spey and switch and have tried out most of the popular switch rods out there. At the $250 price point your options are very limited and you wont get a very good rod for that money. However, at the $350 price point there are some good options. the TFO deer creek is okay, its a bit stiff, heavy and clunky, for the same price you could get the redington prospector 11' 6 weight, this rod is a gem for the price, in fact I believe at this price point it is unbeatable in lightweight, livelyness and smoothness. Btw, given that you will be fishing with large flies you should definetely go with a 6 weight not a 5. I have a 5126 z-axis, and It's my go-to trout spey rod, but it doesn't handle large streamers very well, a 6 would make more sense for that.

At $410 you could get yourself the beulah classic 11'6 6/7 weight, or 10'6" 6 weight classic switch at $395. Beulah is a top notch company for double handers, everyone in the spey community knows these affordable rods are ranked with rods costing twice as much. Research beulah rods and you'll find out what I am talking about. A friend of mine fishes the beulah 6126 platinum which cost him $400 on closeout price, and it fishes almost as nicely as my $750 5126 z-axis, so again buelah is worth a hard look if your willing to pay $400.

As for the VXP, it doesn't come in a switch, only a spey, the 5120 which is more like a 6 weight. the vxp 6129 can handle a 450 grain skagit, so its not a true 6 at all and would be overgunned for your application. Again, given the amount of money your looking to spend, the reddington prospector 11' 6 weight switch at $365 or the beulah classic switch 10'6" 6 weight at $395 or classic spey 11'6" 6/7 weight at $410 are your best options in my opinion. I think price to performance ratio, the beulah 10'6" 6 weight switch is one of the best two handers on the market, that is hard to dispute. Let me know if you have any more specific questions about these rods, I have fished all of them.
Thank you for your detail insight, I really appreciated it.

An outfitter where I am mostly buying my stuffs is also recommending the Prospector 11'6wt for my type of fishing, I am considering the Allen Olympic 5wt 11' which is currently on sale, medium fast action, flex to the cork. They have good reviews as well, but they ran out of the 6wt. Do you know anything about them?
I know about the Beulah, and to be honest it is a pressure to fish with such great brand name for a noob like me and the price is above what I am willing to pay.

By the way, I don't have big hands, so I like smaller grip like the Zenith single hand. How is the grip on the Prospector?
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