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brookfieldangler 04-03-2012 08:52 AM

1 hour, 8 fish, 3 species, 2 firsts
 
I had an hour to fish before my wife was do home, so I stopped at a pond on the way home from work. I only had my 8wt on me and some 6X tippet (2.1lbs), so I tied on a white woolly bugger with a chartreuse tail that I tied a few days ago.

I was essentially just running and gunning and around the half way point of the pond, I finally got a bite. It ended up being a decent size bluegill with fantastic colors. Since I was chasing bass, I chose not to take a picture of it. I realized almost as soon as I let it go, however, that this was my first gill on the fly. UGH!!

Now that I caught a fish, I slowed it down a bit and started working the rest of the pond a bit slower. For some reason, I just lost faith in my white/chartruese combo so I switched it to a color I have had better luck with - black. The particular fly was kind of a play on a wooly bugger, only weighted with barbel eyes instead of a bead or lead wraps, no hackle, and black estaz body.

I was finishing up when the wife called and asked me to pick up dinner. I told her I'm just going to finish my lap and I'll be on my way. I approached the last little cove of the pond and laid out a nice cast real close to one of several drainage pipes. In my fourth or fifth strip, the line got tight and it was fish on!! Blue gill number two for the day and two on the fly!

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-m...he%2520fly.jpg
*I've been informed that this is actually a green sunfish - so another new species. (I don't generally keep track of different sunfish sub species and tend to call them all "blue gills")

A cast or two later...strip strip strip strip fish! This fish felt much better. After a few moments of letting it tire itself out, my first large-mouth on the fly was in hand.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-R...he%2520fly.jpg

For the next few minutes, there was either a bite or fish caught on almost every single cast. Nothing was too big or noteworthy so they all went back without a photo.

Then one on of my last casts, I hooked into something big! It was something that actually pulled a little bit of line and had no trouble really putting a bend on that fly rod. I was positive that this was a bigger bass that I was hoping for. It took me a couple of minutes or so before I felt confident enough to really start bringing him in. Once I did, I was shocked to see a giant crappie! I had my regular camera in my bag along with a tripod so I quickly got it set up for a picture. I hit the self-timer and took the shot of a 15" crappie. After a bit of cropping to hide the background/location......

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7...ly_cropped.jpg

Since I didn't have a tape measure, I laid it down next to my rod for reference to measure later.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--...0fly%25202.JPG

Once home, I laid out a tape measure and sure enough...a hair over 15"

I took a few more casts after that and ended up with a couple more small ones before calling it a day.

*Note - I didn't realize it at the time, but I just so happened to be wearing a shirt with a crappie reference today :lol:

gatortransplant 04-03-2012 09:21 AM

Re: 1 hour, 8 fish, 3 species, 2 firsts
 
Congrats on a great day, but you may have to rehost the photos elsewhere, as they are not showing up :/

brookfieldangler 04-03-2012 09:59 AM

Re: 1 hour, 8 fish, 3 species, 2 firsts
 
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Originally Posted by gatortransplant (Post 425835)
Congrats on a great day, but you may have to rehost the photos elsewhere, as they are not showing up :/

Thanks! It should be fixed now

mrl0004 04-03-2012 12:50 PM

Re: 1 hour, 8 fish, 3 species, 2 firsts
 
Awesome! Sometimes pond fishing is really great, like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get. :D

As for the confusion caused by "bluegill" identification, you're probably better off calling them all bluegill! Around here we have longear sunfish, red breasted sunfish, bluegill, shellcracker, green sunfish, warmouth, rockbass and probably something else I'm forgetting. The problem is that most of these hybridize so easily that it can be quite a task to differentiate them as a singular species.

A good guide I found from TN is here: TWRA - Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency - Sunfish Identification

It has several examples of each species and how the colors can be variable.

bks 04-03-2012 09:46 PM

Re: 1 hour, 8 fish, 3 species, 2 firsts
 
outstanding

Poke 'Em 04-04-2012 09:29 PM

Re: 1 hour, 8 fish, 3 species, 2 firsts
 
All the different sunfish are actually separate species, not just separate subspecies.

brookfieldangler 04-04-2012 09:47 PM

Re: 1 hour, 8 fish, 3 species, 2 firsts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrl0004 (Post 425936)
Awesome! Sometimes pond fishing is really great, like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get. :D

As for the confusion caused by "bluegill" identification, you're probably better off calling them all bluegill! Around here we have longear sunfish, red breasted sunfish, bluegill, shellcracker, green sunfish, warmouth, rockbass and probably something else I'm forgetting. The problem is that most of these hybridize so easily that it can be quite a task to differentiate them as a singular species.

A good guide I found from TN is here: TWRA - Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency - Sunfish Identification

It has several examples of each species and how the colors can be variable.

It is...I love the pond when I just have a quick hour to kill.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bks (Post 426197)
outstanding

Thanks!!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Poke 'Em (Post 426788)
All the different sunfish are actually separate species, not just separate subspecies.

Aren't they subspecies of the family Centrarchidae? I have a rough intro to biology knowledge at best of this sort of thing....

Also, when I say that all of them are "bluegill" to me, I specifically mean the Lepomis genus.

Poke 'Em 04-05-2012 11:16 AM

Re: 1 hour, 8 fish, 3 species, 2 firsts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brookfieldangler (Post 426791)
Aren't they subspecies of the family Centrarchidae? I have a rough intro to biology knowledge at best of this sort of thing....

Also, when I say that all of them are "bluegill" to me, I specifically mean the Lepomis genus.

Yes, they are all in the family Centrarchidae, and, in fact, they're pretty much all in the genus Lepomis. But once you get down to the species level, they're all different species. If they were different subspecies, you'd see them as L. macrochirus somthingus and L. macrochirus somthingelseus (L. macrochirus is an actual bluegill). Instead, a bluegill is L. macrochirus and a green sunfish is L. cyanellus, for example. Same genus, different species.

Contrast that to cutthroat trout, for example, in which there are (arguably) 13 subspecies, all of the species O. clarkii. For instance, coastal cutthroat are O. clarkii clarki, Yellowstone cutthroat are O. clarkii bouvieri and westslope cutthroats are O. clarkii lewisi. All the same speices, but different subspecies.

brookfieldangler 04-05-2012 01:53 PM

Re: 1 hour, 8 fish, 3 species, 2 firsts
 
Ahhh...so its that that third part that indicates subspecies vs species. Thanks!


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