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Default Spey rodding the Missouri River

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Does anyone spey the Missouri in the Missouri/Kansas City Area for catfish or any other fish? If so, what are you using? What kind of tip/fly/leader length? I'm currently geared with a tfo deer creek 13'6" and a 600g rio flight skagit line and I'm using a 5ft sink tip. I've been trying sculpins/rabbit-strip leeches/clousers/buggers. I haven't had any luck. Of course, I don't think I'm quite getting to the bottom, either. Any, comments on this would be helpful.

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Don't know the water(s), but skip trying for cat fish. 'Any' fish with his/her mouth on the bottom their head is a 'bottom sifter' when it comes to feeding. Know a couple of locals (out of So-Kalifornia) and their considered opinion the hardest fish to get their attention was Carp.

Never fished (knowingly) for same here in Oregon (or years back in Nor-Cal) but it's an art form.

BUT all that aside, what type of fish are in your river area?

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There are blue-cats, flathead, channel-cats, palid sturgeon, shovelnose sturgeon, common carp, asian carp, buffalo carp, fresh-water drum. That all that I know... I called the fishery, the other day. The missouri river in this area doesn't have the habitat for fish like walleye and pike, or even smallmouth bass.

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And there's gar in the river...
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Wow! Gar, now that would be something to hook on a fly rod.
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Default Re: Spey rodding the Missouri River

Gar are super easy on the fly rod. About the same as bluegills with a worm.

There should also be striped/white bass hybrids in the river. My buddy fishes in the MO river all the time and catches all kinds of stuff, the other day he pulled a small smallie out of the mississippi behind a lock and dam in nasty muddy water. He also catches goldeneye, so you may have some of those to find as welll.

We never use a spey rod in the river, we either stick to the bank or go out in our kayaks. To get the weight down we just use heavy flies and split shot. they cast like hell but we get em 10-25' down pretty easy. Lots of catfish and drum being caught in that range right now.
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Would love to see some photo's of a fly rod caught Gar. You have quite a range of fish there that you won't (well, some small stocked ponds) find in the Darkest Reaches of Southern Oregon.

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Default Re: Spey rodding the Missouri River

use a heavy tip depending on how deep it is, if you want the bottom 5ips is what you want, and id also suggest at least a 12ft tip, youll get a better anchor
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No photos of gar, i tend to send them on their way before they get too close to the kayak, but here's a video of my buddy hooking into a big one, watch for soem mild language i think,,,

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Find some riffles and have a go there.
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Default Re: Spey rodding the Missouri River

Dallas, we may have found the fish to target! Gar on a two hand rod. Sounds freakin awsome!
In fact if you get it figured out I may have to come down and do it to. That would be more fun than should be legal.
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