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Old 02-25-2014, 12:25 PM
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So I have been reading quite a few posts of guys having a great time catching pucker mouths on the fly rod. I think this year may be the year to try. I have shot my fair share with a bow and understand how some of those pigs can flat out put up a fight.

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I have a Sage 8100 (10' 8wt) that I was hoping to use as an all around rod (pike, carp, steelhead & some saltwater).
I am currently looking for a reel that would help me do all of the above without costing me an arm and leg. Do I want to look for a disc drag? Pretty new to needing a drag on a fly reel. Would love to find a decent used reel since I may not be going a ton each year, but want to have the equipment ready when the opportunity presents itself.

So what else do I need to know? What flies should I tie to get started? Leaders?

We usually shoot them well when they are "rolling" in the shallows in the spring. Is that normally when you catch them or are they a fish you can target most of the year?
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I'm not a carp specialist...I sometimes catch one by chance...If john montana or Joni sees your post they'll advise you...if they don't pm them
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"The Carp Thread" should provide some answers, but also check out others threads that come up using the search engine.
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That rod will do. Its a bit heavy for some of the delicate presentations that some carp require. But a long leader and good technique can overcome that to a point. I haven't bought a new reel in eons but I would recommend a disc drag. I think there are some good reels out there at a pretty good price point now. Check out the Allen Kraken. If you do get into saltwater and are chasing hard running, endurance fish, I would not trust any budget reel... At least not for long.

The rolling carp in the spring are likely spawning and my experience has been they can be difficult to catch when their doing that. I prefer to start chasing them post spawn and then all the way into the fall. Depending on your climate, you could have year round access to them.

Its hard to put a pin on exact fly patterns as carp seem to prefer different things in different places. If I had only one fly, it would be a #8 black wooly bugger.
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That rod will do. Its a bit heavy for some of the delicate presentations that some carp require. But a long leader and good technique can overcome that to a point. I haven't bought a new reel in eons but I would recommend a disc drag. I think there are some good reels out there at a pretty good price point now. Check out the Allen Kraken. If you do get into saltwater and are chasing hard running, endurance fish, I would not trust any budget reel... At least not for long.

The rolling carp in the spring are likely spawning and my experience has been they can be difficult to catch when their doing that. I prefer to start chasing them post spawn and then all the way into the fall. Depending on your climate, you could have year round access to them.

Its hard to put a pin on exact fly patterns as carp seem to prefer different things in different places. If I had only one fly, it would be a #8 black wooly bugger.

Great stuff...I am in Northern Indiana so we can get some extreme winters like this one (24-28" of ice on most lakes) and more mild winters like the last few...How do you fish the bugger? We use them in a local trout stream and do pretty well streamer fishing them letting the current take them into banks, under trees, & around rocks. What tippet should I use?
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I have a BIIx 8wt. But for Carping, I use a Cabela's 9' 8wt and the Wind River reel ($29.00) I have used this reel for two years and hundreds of carp from 22" to 36".
A good easy to cast line is a must. I use a Sage Bass line and Sharkskin Magnum (on sale for $57.00)
As mentioned, stealth an delicate delivery is a must as they spook very easy.
Cast a heavy fly over but in front of them ten strip it back. Note: This can cause snagging.
Another way is to gently drop the fly a few inches in front of Carp (if you can see them) and wait for them to open their mouth on the fly.
Or, I have been using a Thingamabobber and casting out with the fly about 20" to 28" below. I am averaging at least two on every outing doing this, but again, I cannot see the carp on this body of water.
Leader, I use a 5' Mono Furled and add 2 to 3 feet of 8lb fluoro. Fly, I use two. One agout 6" up from bottom on a tag. I use a Green Weenie, a rubber leg Stonefly, and A Rainy's Hex. All work. Main fly that I have caught 98% on is a simple Rainy's Popcorn Ball (A Yellow glow bug with a white softhackle collar.
I have caught them on a 6 wt. but I like the 8 wt for muscling them in.
If they are feeding on top, I use a larger Yellow Elk Hair Caddis or a Gartside Gurgler.
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Is most carp fishing done by spot and stalk or do you ever just fish a pool? Do you typically find them in the same places in the early spring as you do the rest of the time in the summer?

Might be pressed to find a place around here that isn't chocolate milk and moving pretty good with all of our melting, but just wondering.

I have a PERFECT golf course pond I will have to see if I can get on sometime that has some monsters in it. I used to mow there and they would hit on about anything thrown on top of the water!
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[QUOTE=rjsac09;650688]Is most carp fishing done by spot and stalk or do you ever just fish a pool? Do you typically find them in the same places in the early spring as you do the rest of the time in the summer?[QUOTE]






MOST carp fishing is seeing some sign of them. A shadow, a tip of a tail. Yes I catch them sight unseen. Water is very mossy and you can't tell if anything is in there. But knowing they are as certain times of the day they jump. Most carp I have caught I have not seen them, but know they are there. I fish slow pools and Stillwater for them too.
I fish all summer, but early spring is very active.
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