I'am new at fly fishing and i can't seem to get the trout to bite.I'am using dry and wet flys i see them jumping and sufacing but nothing.I'am in northern manitoba if that makes a difference.Is there a certain type of fly I should use and where should i look and cast for them on this lake?
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If you are already casting to rising (feeding trout) you are in the right place. Now you just have to figure out what they are feed on and imitate it.
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as crazy as it sounds,in a multiple hatch situation, i've set in the water, up to the very brim of my chest waders to get down to a 'troutlike' level to see which flies they were actually eating.fshfanatic said:
Most fishermen enjoy being thought of as crazy -- Gierach.
On a lake, i wouldn't hesitate to grab an entomology book (like Schwiebert's Matching the Hatch
) and turn over a few rocks, or scoop a fly out of the air, and match it up to a likely pattern.A few attractor patterns could prove beneficial: royal wulff, humpy, bivisible, stimulator, etc...
I'd also go for a generic fly: wooly bugger, hare's ear, adams, etc...
good luck!
lf
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LoneFlinger has given you some excellent advice. Now... if that's a little too much to absorb... go to, or call, the nearest fly shop and ask those guys what flies to use on that water.
Now... there is a lot more to it than just selecting the right fly. For example, your presentation needs to be somewhat accurate and you must have a drag free drift. The fly line nor the leader can pull against your fly.
Also, you must decide if you're using the correct size leader/tippet for the particular situation. Sometimes fish are "leader shy" and you must use a small leader (6x perhaps) so they can't easily see it.
And... make sure you're standing down stream (behind) of the fish. Many trout will not take a fly if they see you first.
That's a start.
Now... there is a lot more to it than just selecting the right fly. For example, your presentation needs to be somewhat accurate and you must have a drag free drift. The fly line nor the leader can pull against your fly.
Also, you must decide if you're using the correct size leader/tippet for the particular situation. Sometimes fish are "leader shy" and you must use a small leader (6x perhaps) so they can't easily see it.
And... make sure you're standing down stream (behind) of the fish. Many trout will not take a fly if they see you first.
That's a start.
I have lots of flys that look like the adams flys when you search it in google.I'am fishing a lake, and there is no fly shops around here for 100's of miles or more.I seen a fruit fly so i will try the "dun" patteren and i seen one of those worm like bugs still in the case that they make out of tiny pebbles and wood crawling on the bottom.
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Well, with this info you might try of the following examples:
For the fruit fly looking thing it's not a Dun you need to imitate. It is some sort of Diptera or Midge. Try, a Midge larva or pupa. Say a Disco Midge or Brassie or Glass Bead Midge Black. You could also try a Griffith's Gnat dry fly. Here's a link to Blue Fly Cafe that sould work for the dry fly versions: http://www.blueflycafe.com/products.asp?dept=11
Try this link for more info on Midges in your area: http://bcadventure.com/adventure/angling/bugs/chironomid/chironomid.phtml
The cased insects sounds to me to be Cased Caddis. There are different types of Cased Caddis that your insects may be: Saddle-Cased, Purse-Cased, and Tube-Cased. There are various patterns that may work for these types of insects. Here's a link to Blue Fly Cafe that sould work for these types of patterns:
http://www.blueflycafe.com/prodinfo.asp?number=CAS%2D1788
http://www.blueflycafe.com/prodinfo.asp?number=BUC%2D1721
http://www.blueflycafe.com/prodinfo.asp?number=CAD%2D1530
http://www.blueflycafe.com/prodinfo.asp?number=CAD%2D1531
Try this link for more info on Cased Caddis in your area: http://bcadventure.com/adventure/angling/bugs/caddisfly/caddisfly.phtml
Pay close attention to the colors & sizes of the insects and try to match your fly selection along these lines and you should start to see some takes. There are tons of different patterns out there that could work for you. Since your on a lake try Brain Chan's site he is some what of an expert on the subject in my opinion: http://www.chironomid.com
I hope this helps.
Thanks,
Terry
For the fruit fly looking thing it's not a Dun you need to imitate. It is some sort of Diptera or Midge. Try, a Midge larva or pupa. Say a Disco Midge or Brassie or Glass Bead Midge Black. You could also try a Griffith's Gnat dry fly. Here's a link to Blue Fly Cafe that sould work for the dry fly versions: http://www.blueflycafe.com/products.asp?dept=11
Try this link for more info on Midges in your area: http://bcadventure.com/adventure/angling/bugs/chironomid/chironomid.phtml
The cased insects sounds to me to be Cased Caddis. There are different types of Cased Caddis that your insects may be: Saddle-Cased, Purse-Cased, and Tube-Cased. There are various patterns that may work for these types of insects. Here's a link to Blue Fly Cafe that sould work for these types of patterns:
http://www.blueflycafe.com/prodinfo.asp?number=CAS%2D1788
http://www.blueflycafe.com/prodinfo.asp?number=BUC%2D1721
http://www.blueflycafe.com/prodinfo.asp?number=CAD%2D1530
http://www.blueflycafe.com/prodinfo.asp?number=CAD%2D1531
Try this link for more info on Cased Caddis in your area: http://bcadventure.com/adventure/angling/bugs/caddisfly/caddisfly.phtml
Pay close attention to the colors & sizes of the insects and try to match your fly selection along these lines and you should start to see some takes. There are tons of different patterns out there that could work for you. Since your on a lake try Brain Chan's site he is some what of an expert on the subject in my opinion: http://www.chironomid.com
I hope this helps.
Thanks,
Terry
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Let us know how that works.