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Arkie24
04-12-2009, 06:22 PM
I seen this variation in a magazine and thought is was cool. I tied on the rabbit strip and then pulled it back to use a razor blade to make a small slit in the hide to straddle the hook.

The one I seen was black with a white rabbit strip, I wanted to get original and do the firetiger.

My only concern is when I throw this I am afraid once the rabbit gets wet this is going to be one HEAVY fly to throw!

Thoughts?





http://thumb2.webshots.net/t/66/766/0/60/10/2342060100101110582xqwKDc_th.jpg (http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2342060100101110582xqwKDc)

BigCliff
04-12-2009, 08:45 PM
I don't think there's any way to get around that fly being heavy. One way to reduce the weight a bit would be to just tie in the rabbit strip at the rear of the shank of the hook. This also saves you from having to slit the thing, and greatly reduces the chances of it fouling.

Here's a similar one I like that is a bit lighter, and works with large bead chain eyes.- http://www.flyfisherman.com/ftb/Red%20Neck%20Rabbit.pdf

texasflycaster
04-12-2009, 09:47 PM
In my opinion, probabilities are it will run hook down with the weight of that wet rabbit. shannon

BigCliff
04-13-2009, 11:57 AM
In my opinion, probabilities are it will run hook down with the weight of that wet rabbit. shannon

The weight you're referring to would be caused by water. Water does not sink in water. (unless its really cold, but I don't think we're discussing thermodynamics here)

The thing may run hook down, but not due to the weight of a wet zonker.

Ard
04-13-2009, 12:08 PM
Ark,

I use big rabbit fur comets with zinc eyes for weight for king's here and the weight isn't prohibitive. If I'm fishing specifically for kings I use a nine weight rod and once I get used to the thud on the back cast it's just like casting a #16 on a 5wt. When getting it down to the fish is the objective don't let weight bother you, you'll adapt.

Ard

swirlchaser
04-13-2009, 01:46 PM
You can tie a half n half instead to save some weight. This is a bad pic but a half n half starts with 4-6 feathers tied on either side of the hook before you start your clouser. This will save you alot of weight.

MrEsox
04-13-2009, 04:36 PM
Actually;

Your more or less right on the weight of the fly. However, I have no troubles. I picked up the Clouser fly book and it has this pattern in there, so I made a few. There is no real troules with my 5wt but like them much better with the 9wt I normally use. All my flies for the most part are larger using size 4 hooks and bigger. Most of my Clouser are on a 1/0 or bigger. (pike, bass, eyes etc) I find the little extra weigth to help with casting dista ce and such. The amount of action from the tail, added color, and added action is a plus when after larger fish...this was a great fly for pike. However, smaller fish may shy away form it. To me this is a large fish fly.

Arkie24
04-17-2009, 06:50 PM
Thanks for the input guys. I will fish the clouser this weekend and see its reaction. I will keep you posted....

Guest1
04-26-2009, 11:23 PM
The small chunk of rabbit in a clouser sized fly shouldn't be that bad. I cast rabbit flies all the time. I mean big rabbit flies. I use a ten weight and a line designed for chunky flies and have no problems. These flies are 5" long.

Arkie24
05-01-2009, 08:34 PM
After fishing the fly in question, I can defiantly feel the "thud" in the back cast bus as far as throwing it, it throws very well. I tied the deer hair on the back side of the hook very tight but the buck tail I put on top I tied more freely to allow the fly to swim correct. the hook was up instead of down and when I strip the line the fly swims well. I didn't catch any fish YET but it looks very promising. I will post more pics of diffrent colors. Thanks for the input!

Rip Tide
05-02-2009, 06:24 AM
I attended a casting clinic with Bob Clouser a couple of years ago.
He suggested using an oval cast with heavy flies

elliptical fly casting, belgian cast, Gebetsroither Cast, - online tuition (http://www.g-feuerstein.com/Flycasting/elliptical%20fly%20casting.htm)

swirlchaser
05-02-2009, 07:09 AM
I attended a casting clinic with Bob Clouser a couple of years ago.
He suggested using an oval cast with heavy flies

elliptical fly casting, belgian cast, Gebetsroither Cast, - online tuition (http://www.g-feuerstein.com/Flycasting/elliptical%20fly%20casting.htm)

I do the same, I find it easier to cast and it saves your rod some pain. I sheared 3" off the tip of a 9WT casting a 2/0 clouser.

GeorgeMcFly
05-03-2009, 12:33 AM
ouch!!!!

swirlchaser
05-04-2009, 11:00 AM
ouch!!!!

Ouch is right. Its an older rod that I wrapped a few years ago so to warranty to fall back on. I now have an 8'9" 9WT that actually throws pretty nice...:frogdance

flytyer56
07-02-2009, 12:14 AM
Arkie24, that's an sweet looking fly. I never thought about useing rabbit strips for clousers.

The Tyer
07-02-2009, 10:39 PM
I think you could add a little wieght to ur fly or put a split shot on and add fly floantent to the rabbit i use kiwi camp dry the same stuff but that stuff is a spary and its bulk





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