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  1. #11
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    Feb 2011
    Boston, Mass.

    Default Re: Multipurpose patterns/sizes for NOT a trout fisherman

    Quote Originally Posted by jaybo41 View Post
    Lots of good suggestions here that I'm in agreement with. One I *think* was missing is beetles. Crowe beetles are good for selective fish. I like the foam beetles for a dry/dropper setup or simply fished by itself.
    Yes, beetles too. Ants and beetles are around all the time in wooded areas, even when there's nothing hatching from the water.

    The last time I was on the Yellow Breeches in Pennsylvania a few years ago, the fireflies were out at dusk and there was a guy catching a lot of fish with a floating beetle pattern he had tied with some glow-in-the-dark yarn for a butt. He would shine his penlight on the butt to make it glow, and then float the beetle over fishy looking spots.

    A deadly ant pattern you don't see very often is mentioned in the 2nd edition of Ray Bergman's classic Trout. It's just two lumps of black tying thread with a few turns of hackle in between them, but the secret is, you coat the lumps several times with head cement while you are winding them, so by the time they are finished they are thoroughly infused with cement. The cement adds weight and sinks the fly, which should be fished dead drift like a sunken nymph. Bergman's insight is that most ants that fall into the water will sink rather than float, and be carried downstream underwater with the current. Ants come in all sizes; try #12 to #16.
    Last edited by moucheur2003; 02-17-2013 at 02:45 PM.

  2. #12
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    Sep 2006
    Manning, S. C. (formerly MD)

    Default Re: Multipurpose patterns/sizes for NOT a trout fisherman

    When I was tying commercially, there were a few terrestrial patterns I sold quite often & they were always present in my own fly boxes. One was a similar ant pattern to what moucheur2003 mentioned, but a hard bodied version made with 2 lumps of either black or red acetate floss, and about 2 turns of hackle. The hackle could be black, red brown, bright red or a dark red, either rooster or hen. Acetate floss when dipped in acetone hardens. It's not the best procedure due to the fumes, but does make a good fly. Another was made with thread lumps & epoxy coated. The most purchased sizes were 12, 14 & 16.

    There were 2 beetle patterns I sold most. One was made with a shell of foam, and micro cactus chenille under the foam. The other beetle was spun deerhair, tied on a nymph/wet fly type hook to get a bit more weight & clipped to shape. Black was the most common color, but I did them in other colors as well. However sizes varied more, from 16 up to 8, as they made great panfish patterns too!

    Another pattern that I sold a lot was a deerhair worm. Tied on longer shank hooks, usually nymph/wet fly types, which was nothing more than deer hair tied in at the rear of the hook, twisted some & laid along the hook shank over a thread base. The tying thread was left at the rear of the hook & the body was ribbed with the thread. Then the deer hair was tied down behind the hook eye & the extra hair was clipped to form a bit of a head. Very simple & easy to tie, but worked quite well. I made foam versions too, but they didn't have the same appearance as deerhair. Green (bright green/chartreuse) & natural tan deerhair was the most popular colors, and 12 & 14 the most popular sizes.
    Remember, no one likes to be behind the big truck, but that's better than being under it!

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