Mayfly id help please

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Thanks for looking, I am new to fly fishing and need to study up on bugs. I hope there is enough detail for an id. These were coming off a small freestone creek in the catskills today. They lasted about three - four hours starting about noon. I don't know if they were hatching or flying over the water dropping eggs. 20180520_174527.jpg

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Thanks for looking, I am new to fly fishing and need to study up on bugs. I hope there is enough detail for an id. These were coming off a small freestone creek in the catskills today. They lasted about three - four hours starting about noon. I don't know if they were hatching or flying over the water dropping eggs. View attachment 11379

Probably E. Invaria or E. Dorthea commonly called called sulphurs.

http://www.mayfly.com/articles/Sulphur.html

http://www.paflyfish.com/smartsection.item.63/the-sulphurs-are-here.html

http://www.troutnut.com/hatch/28/Mayfly-Ephemerella-Hendricksons-Sulphurs-PMDs

https://www.bing.com/images/search?...sc=5-17&cvid=0DE830EC083841FCA7C48F5B4DA6CF7B

http://www.orvis.com/p/sulphur-parachute/0923

They were NOT dropping eggs. Mayflies have two adult stages. The one in your photo is the subimago stage more commonly known as a "dun" because often the wings of duns are grey. The duns transform into the sexually mature imago or "spinner" stage with clear transparent wings. They are called "spinners" because of the way they fly around in the air during the mating flight. The females then lay their eggs and both the male and females die, falling on the water as "spent spinners" with the wings out two the sides.

Mayfly life cycle below:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UjlT7fqJ1s

You saw the duns which hatch during the day and if you came back in the evening, you likely would have seen the spinners which had hatched on previous days.

Note the clear wings of the spinner in the image below.



If you decide to get serious about catching "bug" in the air, on and under the water, you can make a sampling net like the one I carry with me below.



You can see that the handle is only partially lengthen below. It goes up to 3 feet.



I explain how on to make a collapsing net in this Wisconsin TU newspaper article. The collapsing handle is a magnet from Harbor Freight. The article is on pg 8. There is also a second article I wrote on how to make a New Zealand strike indicator.

http://wicouncil.tu.org/sites/default/files/2017 January.pdf
 
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Silver Creek is spot on I believe... given your location and timing, probably E. invaria. It could be E. rotunda (larger size 12-14, olive cast, hatch early afternoons below fast riffles), but they "officially" don't exist anymore in the eyes of entomologists who have combined them with E. invaria.

Also gotta give a "shout out" to Silver for linking an article that I wrote for PA Flyfish about 10 years ago. :D
 

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I can't tell what size this insect is but it is a female dun and appears to have two tails. I doubt it is an Ephemerella.
I thought the same at first, but if you look at the tip of the abdomen you can see that there are 3 tails. 1 of them doesn't appear in the rest of the photo for some reason (broken, behind the other, twisted out of sight, other).

Otherwise agreed, 2 tails would take us down a different path altogether.
 
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