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    Default Re: Cabelas CGR Current Quality?

    When it was just Cabelas, that company would list the rods for $129 or something close to that, but frequently drop the price, sometimes as low as $40. It doesn’t seem like BPS follows that same pattern.

    The only one I’m missing is the 3 weight. I use all of mine frequently, like almost everyday, except the 4 weight. I just somehow left it out of the rotation. I’ve fished for coldwater trout on a New Mexico stream with the 7’ 4/5 weight, now called a 5 weight. All the others torment bass, bluegills, catfish, Crappie, carp out on the lake and some have had a time frustrating a number of the local saltwater species.

    I don’t know what BPS could do to improve them.
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    Default Re: Cabelas CGR Current Quality?

    Quote Originally Posted by karstopo View Post
    When it was just Cabelas, that company would list the rods for $129 or something close to that, but frequently drop the price, sometimes as low as $40. It doesn’t seem like BPS follows that same pattern.

    The only one I’m missing is the 3 weight. I use all of mine frequently, like almost everyday, except the 4 weight. I just somehow left it out of the rotation. I’ve fished for coldwater trout on a New Mexico stream with the 7’ 4/5 weight, now called a 5 weight. All the others torment bass, bluegills, catfish, Crappie, carp out on the lake and some have had a time frustrating a number of the local saltwater species.

    I don’t know what BPS could do to improve them.
    What line are you using on the 7/8 and what size flies? This is the first glass rod I've owned, and I'm having trouble finding the sweet spot for loading it right. I don't know if it's the wrong line or my casting.
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    Default Re: Cabelas CGR Current Quality?

    Quote Originally Posted by mjkirshner View Post
    What line are you using on the 7/8 and what size flies? This is the first glass rod I've owned, and I'm having trouble finding the sweet spot for loading it right. I don't know if it's the wrong line or my casting.
    I’m currently using an 8 weight SA Titan Taper on one. I have two 7/8 weight CGRs. I have an 8 weight SA grand Slam on the other 7/8 weight CGR. I have had an 8 weight Airflo Tropical Punch Bruce Chard taper on the rods and that line worked well. The Chard and the Titan lines are overweight per the standards, I’m not sure about the grand slam. Flies, on the lake, it’s size 2 and 1/0 deer hair divers, size 1 or 2 Balanced leeches, etc. Out in the salt marshes, it’s mostly size 2 or 4 redfish crack, Borski Sliders, etc.

    The only line I really didn’t like with the rod is an 8 weight Wulff TT. It was just different and weird and didn’t fit what I wanted to do. I’ve done a SA 7 weight Bonefish line and it’s alright, but maybe not what I wanted for closer in fishing which is what I primarily do with the 7/8 weight CGR.

    I tend to like shorter head, heavy lines on most of my rods. I’m generally trying to make short and mid range casts with minimal false casts rather than carrying tons of line in the air.
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    Default Re: Cabelas CGR Current Quality?

    Quote Originally Posted by karstopo View Post
    I tend to like shorter head, heavy lines on most of my rods. Iím generally trying to make short and mid range casts with minimal false casts rather than carrying tons of line in the air.
    That makes sense. Tim Rajeff also suggests shorter, heavier heads (so you're in good company!) on fiberglass rods. I tried the Echo BAG and just didn't like it much. The faster action was too much like a graphite rod, but it was heavier, so I didn't see much advantage. The color was cool, but I just didn't feel much else. I like the CGR more. The CGR feels lighter than the BAG, although it is almost an oz heavier than my BVK, but because it is shorter, more of the weight is near the handle, and it balances better with a light reel than the TFO. I don't love the CGR as much as I would like to, but I'm hoping to get used to it. At least for $70 it is worth keeping; at four times that price, the BAG was not. I tried SA Redfish 7 wt on the CGR, and it seems like it doesn't load well. It is not as heavy as the lines you are using, and that may be the problem. I have some 8 wt Rio Bonefish Quickshooter that is similar to the Grand Slam and Chard in profile, so I will try that. I actually got the rod for very light salt on my SUP, so maybe I will exchange it for the 5/6 and see how the 7-wt line works with that. I wanted a 7, and the 7/8 is actually heavier than I need. I was hoping there was a 6/7, but no such luck. The SA Redfish 7 is 200 grains, which falls between the Grand Slam and the Titan in 6-wt, so if those lines in 8 work well on the 7/8, the Redfish may work nicely on the 5/6. I got the CGR for very close fishing around mangroves and shorelines in the Intracoastal Waterway where I paddleboard. I need it to load very close, and I am not looking to hook big fish with it, because that would not work real well on a SUP: I'd be surfing instead of fishing.
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    Default Re: Cabelas CGR Current Quality?

    That Bonefish quickshooter should work well. I had that line way back when and used it with a 6-8 weight TFO minimag I had. That line's taper is a lot like the SA Titan. The 7/8 weight CGR feels like a twig compared to my 9 weight BAG Quickshot. I can see why you didn't care for the Echo BAG, it is truly a heavy rod, at least the 9 weight is. I got mine for The big Jack creavelle, 3'-4' tarpon and bull reds that I come across once in a while.

    My plan this year is to get my 5/6 weight CGR into the saltwater action a lot more. I picked up the Piscfun sword for cheap so now I have a reel to handle the salt. I've got a 6 weight SA titan on that rod and it casts great with that line.
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    The Titan in 6 wt is 210 grain @ 30' with a total 33.5' head, and the QS in 6 wt is also 210 grain with a 35.5' head, so they are very similar. The SA Redfish Warm in 7 wt is 200 grain @ 30' with a 31' head, so other than the shorter head, the Redfish 7-wt is a lot like the Titan or QS in 6. In that case, it would probably work great on the 5/6. The Titan looks like nice line, but the SA site says it is cold to warm water, and the Redfish is for warm to hot. It hit 90 here yesterday, and it is only May, so I probably need to stick with hot weather line.

    I tested the 8-wt QS against the 7-wt Redfish on the 7/8, and I honestly cannot tell which cast better. I picked a patch of weeds floating around 35' out, and tested to see which line I could cast more accurately more often. I used the same fly on each line, and I could pretty much drop it within a few inches of target every time, no matter which line I used. The 8-wt threw a little tighter loop, which makes me think that it is loading the rod better. The thing is that I have rods for the kind of fish I would target with an 8. What I don't have is a 7, or even a saltwater 6. My new Sage Foundation casts Rio Bonefish (not QS) in 6-wt very nicely, but I probably won't be taking it out on the paddleboard. Part of the reason for the fiberglass rod is that it is shorter, and less likely to get hung in the mangroves, and it is durable, in the event it gets dropped off the SUP onto rocks, and also it is cheap, so if it does get banged up, I won't feel too bad. The CGR is definitely just a niche rod, but I'm feeling like the 7/8 is more like my 8-wts, and the 5/6 may be closer to what I am looking for. It is a dilemma but the solution is simple: BPS has free 2-day shipping. The nearest BPS stores are about 50 miles north and south of me, but I am going to be near each of them on business within the next couple of weeks, so I will order the 5/6 and see which one I like best, and then return whichever one I like less.
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