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    Default Snow shoe vs. Deer/Elk

    Hi guys,

    I ordered some snow shoe rabbit feet and I intend to replace the deer/elk on some of the dry flies (caddis) I tie, especially in the smaller sizes (#14,16,18?). Here are my questions:
    1. How do this materials compare from point of view of floatability?
    2. Do you stack the snow shoe fur/hair (after cleaning the underfur), or just tie it in the way you cut it off the foot?
    3. Are there any "tricks" (you are willing to share) about working with snow shoe feet fur/hair?

    I would greatly appreciate any help that would shorten the learning curve.

    Thanks,
    Alex

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    Default Re: Snow shoe vs. Deer/Elk

    It all depends on the water you cast them in. Elk will float like a cork in a riffle compared to deer hair, snow shoe floats pretty well in faster stuff but I like it better on slower streams or big flat pools and glides. I don't stack it (show shoe), never tried either, I just try to get a fair amount of guard hairs and fluff. Save the underfur for dubbing!
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    The snowshoe rabbit floats a lot better than than deer or elk and you don't stack it. It's "crinkly" and it just don't work that way.
    You'll see that there's different textures on different parts of the foot.
    Between the toes is longest and makes for good winging material. The underside is shorter but especially water repent and makes good body dubbing.
    It's all pretty "slippery" so tie it in a little at a time.
    You can use it like you would CDC
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    These guys have made great comments about the differences. Snow Shoe is a little bit more tricky to work with the first time you do it, but the more you work with it, the easier it gets. I really like SS for emerger patterns. Add a shuck and you're in business.
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    Thanks for the quick answer! Keep them coming....

    Alex

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    Mark (peregrines) did a nice SBS for the "Usual". A fly by Fran Betters that uses only snowshoe.
    The Usual was the forerunner of the compara-dun series
    Usual SBS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rip Tide View Post
    Mark (peregrines) did a nice SBS for the "Usual". A fly by Fran Betters that uses only snowshoe.
    The Usual was the forerunner of the compara-dun series
    Usual SBS
    Fran Better's invented many famous flies. The Usual is one.



    The haystack is probably my favorite because it preceded the comparadun and Swisher and Richards developed the comparadun from it.




    However, Frans favorite of his patterns neither of those. It is the Ausable Wulff.




    RIP Fran.

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    ---------- Post added at 05:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:43 PM ----------

    You could tie up some Foot Wing Spinners.




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    Default Re: Snow shoe vs. Deer/Elk

    Here is one of my favorites, Tom Rosenbauer's Rabbit's Foot Emerger:
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb2gG44lzEs]Tying a Rabbit's Foot Emerger Fly - YouTube[/ame]
    Larry


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    Quote Originally Posted by mcnerney View Post
    Here is one of my favorites, Tom Rosenbauer's Rabbit's Foot Emerger:
    Tying a Rabbit's Foot Emerger Fly - YouTube
    Nice one! I used something similar for the last two years, but I made the wing out of a bit of poly yarn, topped off with deer. Thanks!

    I'll start out with the emerger, the "usual" and some spinners. I might add some X-caddises with light (pale yellow,tan) and dark (olive, brown, and black) body.

    Thanks for the info,
    Alex

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    SS foot fur makes excellent dubbing , I like to blend it with Antron and other yarns. Snow Shoe foot is one of my all time favorites.
    I have tied one emerger, I need some practice....

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