New to tying-bendbacks

tsubeta04

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Tied these over the last couple days

Wifey dubbed the black one "the midnight special"




What do yall think?
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nick k

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Look nice to me, especially for someone new to tying them.

Something I would recommend for most types of flies in general is to do white (or light colored) bottoms. Most fish have white bottoms as a camouflage measure and flies tied in this way will look more realistic to their predators.

Another suggestion: I like to tie my bend backs fairly sparsely and use natural materials. If you use a lot of materials, it can be hard for the hook to push through it all during a take. I have found that this is especially true for more dense and tightly packed synthetic materials that tend to cling to each other.

Here are some bend backs I tie:





 

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Thanks for the great feeback!!!

Ill be tying some new ones

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I love tying bendbacks and the variations are almost endless. As suggested by Nick K, tying them a bit sparser will definitely make them easier to cast and even more effective.

Great start though!!
 
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Question:

Do they make hooks specifically for this purpose, or does everyone just take something like a SW streamer hook and a pair of pliers?

I've seen this pattern and do think I might have to tie a few along with the usual bucktail patterns I throw out there. I could see them being useful in certain situations.
 

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I just bend em. If I'm going to be tying up quite a few, I'll sit down and bend a good dozen or more up at a time. Takes me a few minutes to knock them all out.
 

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That black one would be killer night time Stripers! Nice job! I just bend them as well and they work fine! Like Nick . And like the other Nick white bellies is a good thing for day time flys!
 

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Mustad made a hook years ago, which was nothing more than a bent 34007. They designated it a 34005. Frankly the bent section was bent a bit farther than I like. Only a slight bend was needed. If you find any of them, they're still a pretty OK hook for tying on.

I believe I saw some others recently too, perhaps Tiemco, but not sure about that.

Before Mustad came out with a bendback hook, I also used to do as brookfieldangler and sit & bend the hooks with pliers. The older stainless hooks, 34007 or the longer 34011 worked great, as the metal was not so hard that they broke easily. Newer, better hooks with harder tempering might be a problem. I broke enough of the older style hooks.

Now, I rarely even bother with bending hooks. I found that most any straight shank hook would work fine even without the front bend. Since I tie most with bucktail, it's buoyancy aids in keeping the fly inverted, as long as the hair is tied inside the bend of the hook.

I also tie them on another hook that Owner made. It's a hook that was intended for plastic baits & is now discontinued, but it had a very similar bend in the front section of the shank. They called it a "Longneck". This hook came with a small cone shaped piece of plastic on the shank, that was used to lock a plastic bait onto the hook, to keep it from sliding. That little cone also works well to aid in propping up materials, or is easily removed. The only draw back to this hook is it's not cheap & was only made in a black nickel finish, so is not as corrosion resistant as a stainless or tinned hook. Still it's an extremely strong & sharp hook, and well suited for freshwater fishing. Again, it's another hook that should you find them, is worth tying on!

I found a tackle shop awhile back that was closing them out for 79 cents per pack, in size 2 & 1, and purchased several packs. :D

Here's a fly I tied on that Owner "Longneck" hook. Not a typical bendback, but I'm sure you can see how well this hook fits the style.
 

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You can get the same style of hook from Allen at a fraction of the price. I won't say that the Orvis hooks aren't a little better quality, but I do just fine with Allen hooks and my wallet is better for it.
 

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You can get the same style of hook from Allen at a fraction of the price. I won't say that the Orvis hooks aren't a little better quality, but I do just fine with Allen hooks and my wallet is better for it.
Thanks, I didn't know that.


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Just checked and didn't see them.
 

nick k

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Hmmm, how did I miss that?

Not quite the same hook. That is not to say it won't work better than AVG, it just doesn't have the complete profile that I like about the Orvis Hooks.

Still, I will buy some and try them.

I've have the Allen ones in 2 different sizes. They work well for me. If you do buy some, they always seem to be larger than the size listed. Then again, it seems like hook sizes are never what I expect, and every company seems to do it differently. I can never tell whats what with those damned things.
 

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Nick, & Mudbug, that Allen hook looks like the Tiemco 8089 hook. Nice hook, but pricey( Tiemco). I've not tried any of the Allen hooks, but have in mind to give them a try next time I need hooks. Which for the hooks I already have will be about the year 3030 I think. :lol2:

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Mud, I have some Mustad hooks that look like the hook you posted, more so than the Allen that Nick posted. The ones I have were also intended to be plastic bait hooks I think, they have some lead molded on them, but it's easily removed. First time I saw them my mind started churning & I knew they would work just fine as a fly hook! :D

Of course, my thought was they would be a good hook for topwater bugs. Never gave the bendback idea much thought. Thanks! :worthy:
 
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