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    Hello all I'm new to fly fishing but I love it.my question is this I fly fished Cherokee today for about 5 hours non trophy waters and didn't catch anything as usual. But guys were catching them on spinners and corn out of the same holes I was fishing so I know they were in there my question is the reason they were not taking a fly because they are stock fish?

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    You need to provide more info.

    What was your rig?

    Tippet size?

    Fly?

    Most likely it could be they were stocked fish, but I've caught plenty of stockers on my fly rod.
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    My S-I-L says stock trout are often fed trout pellets, so they will favor trout pellets on hooks rather than flies. That's been my local experience but I don't know what I'm doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adblouky View Post
    My S-I-L says stock trout are often fed trout pellets, so they will favor trout pellets on hooks rather than flies. That's been my local experience but I don't know what I'm doing.
    I used to work in a trout hatchery and had a lot of opportunity to test that pellet theory.
    Hatchery trout are conditioned to react to the sound of many pellets hitting the water at once
    They do not react to a single pellet on the water any more than they would a cigarette butt.

    They learn quite quickly that aquatic insects are food... with-in a day or so,
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayr View Post
    You need to provide more info.

    What was your rig?

    Tippet size?

    Fly?

    Most likely it could be they were stocked fish, but I've caught plenty of stockers on my fly rod.
    Chances are you were just not fishing where the trout are feeding. I am going to guess you were nymphing. In that case, you probably just didn't set your fly deep enough. You have to get your fly in front of the fish to catch them. That goes for any method you use. Having said that, I have seen trout stockers and wild race across a pool to take an RS2 from a monster trout.

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    I have had days in stocked trout streams where it was super easy and the fish just seemed stupid. They would eat anything that crossed their path and would not spook.

    On the other hand, there have been days when I have been completely frustrated and caught nothing on the same water. Stocked trout are still trout and can be pretty tricky especially in high pressure areas like the streams in Cherokee.

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    After a few days stockers begin to act like real trout. They can be simple or just as hard as a wild trout to catch after that.

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    Here in the mid-Atlantic, stocked trout really go for clown flies and bright green mop flies. Give them a try.

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    Definitely need to provide more info.

    But, my experience with Cherokee is that squirmy worms work really well. Especially red with brass bead. Juju beatis in red or black with gold wings work really well. Egg patterns and SJ worms. Stone flies on a #12 or #14 long shank worked well. And some scuds in burnt orange. Leach zonkers in dark colors contrasted with bright and some flash too. For egg patterns steel head orange or yellow, both with red yolk worked great.

    Those fish up there get a lot of pressure too. Since you stated you're new to the sport, it could be a matter of technique and presentation also. Once the west has frozen and travel becomes an issue I'm planning on a winter trip back up to Cherokee and Dillsboro after the new year. If you want to hook up let me know.

    On another quick note, if they're catching them on spinners you might want to consider tight lining some streamers. Especially weighted streamers with bead heads (or cone heads) and some flash.
    Last edited by kevind62; 10-17-2017 at 01:44 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rip Tide View Post
    They do not react to a single pellet on the water any more than they would a cigarette butt.,


    I've caught several stocker trout (in reservoirs) with cigarette filters stuck in their throats.

    "Every [child] has the right to a first fish. On this particular planet, no man is granted a greater privilege than to be present and to assist in the realization of this moment". Bill Heavey

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