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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Loop to Loop connection Leader or nail knot

    Most often I will use the welded loops until they become damaged, etc. On my dry fly only line, I use a 3-wrap nail knot to attach a thread furled leader. Any more wraps and the knot gets too big. Make sure to use glue or knot sense to cover end of fly line. If not, the exposed fly-line core will absorb water and start to sink. I have never lost a fish because of a bad knot at leader to fly line connection. I like many others use a stiff length of 20 or 30# maxima with a small perfection loop. Again, the perfection loop has never failed me yet.

    On my lines/leaders for nymphing, tossing streamers, etc, I opt for the loop to loop. (easy leader changes).


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    Default Re: Loop to Loop connection Leader or nail knot

    I use loop to loop for line to leader, mostly for the convenience of swapping to different leaders to change techniques.

    I used perfection loops for leader to tippet for a while but I have since stopped. Now I tend to use tippet rings and improve clinch knots to tie the tippet on. I found that perfection loops tied in light tippet had really terrible breaking strength.

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    Default Re: Loop to Loop connection Leader or nail knot

    Loop to loop for fly line to threaded furled leader.

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    Default Re: Loop to Loop connection Leader or nail knot

    If the fly line comes with welded loops then I use them; if not, or if the welded loop breaks off, I put on a braided leader loop (Cortland, Rio, whatever) and coat that with Aquaseal. I've never noticed a problem turning over flies. I use a surgeons loop for the leader/tippet.

    Scott

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    Default Re: Loop to Loop connection Leader or nail knot

    Before most lines came with welded loops, I used a nail knot to attach a short 9-12" length of heavy mono with a Perfection Loop tied on the other end. I then use a Perfection Loop on the leader which allows for easy change. Now, many line come with loops making the Nail Knot unnecessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishgolf View Post
    Before most lines came with welded loops, I used a nail knot to attach a short 9-12" length of heavy mono with a Perfection Loop tied on the other end. I then use a Perfection Loop on the leader which allows for easy change. Now, many line come with loops making the Nail Knot unnecessary.
    I do the same, except I use a length of red Amnesia line instead of the heavy mono.

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    Default Re: Loop to Loop connection Leader or nail knot

    Quote Originally Posted by mjsurfing View Post
    My mate who is teaching me to fly fish has tied my leader on with a nail knot as he said they turn over the leader better.

    I see and have read about braided loop to loop leader joiners. The question I have is are they Ok to use and do they turn over the fly and leader OK.
    MJ,

    I am a saltwater/blue water fly guy and only use 50 pound braided mono loops on both ends of my fly lines.

    I slide the braided loop up the line, then use a 8 pound mono to make a nail knot wrapped about 6-7 times, then I whip finish the little burs down and then add hard as nails nail polish over the nail knot and whip finish....the fly line will break be-four the loop-I guarantee it-LOL There are lots of ways to skin a cat, this is the best I have found-CB

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