If the knot looks bad...

karstopo

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Change it. My blood knot looked bad, asymmetrical, but I went with it anyway yesterday evening for my habitual torturing of the bass with a deer hair diver. Get a good take and better resistance, and then none. Blood knot came unravelled. Story has a happy ending for me and the fish. I found the same diver this morning about 50 feet from where the fish took it. Soggy, but otherwise okay.


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Great point, i find myself at times rushing through knots ,ill get on the river and be excited rush the knot and i pay the price ..
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Several years ago I drove up the Columbia Gorge for an evening of Steelhead fishing. In the parking area I tied on a skunk pattern with an upeye hook, using a double turle knot. It didn't seem right but I was anxious to get fishing so I left it and hiked up to a run. Within a few swings I got a good surface grab. It turned and line started peeling off the reel I lifted the rod and the fish was gone. Upon reeling in and inspecting the leader their was a curly Q at the end of the tippet. Lesson learned, it won't happen again.
 

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Blood knots can sometimes be hard to cinch down well, especially with the hard types of leader material; saliva doesn't always do the trick. I carry a small tube of knot lube (Gehrke's Knot-perfect) and make sure I always use it on blood knots.

What luck that you found your fly!

Tight lines,
Bob
 
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A great point. Bad knots lose more large fish for me. Check them and your tippet religiously.
 

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Blood knots can sometimes be hard to cinch down well, especially with the hard types of leader material; saliva doesn't always do the trick. I carry a small tube of knot lube (Gehrke's Knot-perfect) and make sure I always use it on blood knots.

What luck that you found your fly!

Tight lines,
Bob
Fly floatant works, as well, so you can carry less stuff.
 

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If I look at a knot and have even a moments hesitation about it I retie it.

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Trevor
 

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I usually retie if there's any doubt or a knot looks even a little wrong, but like Dillon, a summer steelhead proved to me that even if I have a bad feeling about a knot I should retie.
I was on the N Umpqua on a July morning and sunlight was starting to hit the water. I hurried to tie on a new fly before the sun hit the water. I use a non slip loop, but something felt wrong when I cinched it down. It looked ok, though, and I was in a hurry so I went ahead anyway. In ten years of fishing the river I'd never hooked a fish in that little pool anyway, it was just fun to swing a fly there. About a dozen casts in a steelhead absolutely hammered my fly, cartwheeled, set out on a blistering run, my backing knot shot through my guides, and then everything went slack. I reeled in and looked at my tippet. My nonslip loop had slipped. No pigtails, just the little overhand loop and a inch or two of tag end. I laughed because I knew it was my fault, but on a river where one hookup a day is good fishing it was a bit disappointing. I think about that fish a lot when I'm tying on a fly even though it was several years ago.
 

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Visual inspection of a knot is a part of the knot tying process; executing, thoroughly tightening and inspecting for flaws. A note on tying coil based knots as I did countless times last week in the Bahamas, when tightening and you feel frictional resistance, stop. Using your thumb nail, push the coils together then restart snugging. I performed most of my leader Nail Knots at home pre-departure and replaced tippets, 20 - 15#, on the boat using the Ligature Knot...a bit more complex and using more tippet material to tie that a Blood knot but stronger. All our flies where tied on with a six turn, Non-Slip Loop Knot; mostly tied by me but my wife tied her own several times too.

In a weeks bonefishing, we endured zero knot failures. We lost a few flies to tippets cut by sharp things like gnarly mangrove roots and shark's teeth but only one break off involved a knot. No, my wife's Non-Slip Loop did not unravel nor slip, rather the loop through the hook eye parted in the middle...in 20# Flouro! I've never seen that before and do not understand why and it was probably her biggest bone too.
 

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Looks bad or feels bad. I've been tying the same terminal knots now for almost 40 years and I can feel it when I tie a knot wrong, especially when I try to cinch it tight. I don't even bother wondering about it anymore; I just cut it off and start over. Sometimes this had cost me a chance at a fish, because it slips away or whatever. But I'm fairly certain that EVERY time I fished a bad knot and got a hit, the knot failed, usually immediately.
 
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