Hi iceman,

I haven't read all the posts on the thread so I may not be in concert with everyone but.............. I realize a guides job is to help you to catch fish however having a guy catch his first steelhead with a bobber and a plastic lure would be like me taking you shopping and showing you how to shoplift. In the end the guy using the beads and bobbers isn't fly fishing any more than the shoplifter is shopping. Real people buy their goods and real fly fishermen earn their steelhead, they catch em on flies. Don't fall into that line of doing it, I'll stop now before I get everyone mad at me.

Old head here,