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I purchased an intermediate sinking line recently. First time using it, it seemed to struggle to sink. It slowly sank from the leader end to the rod, being pulled off the surface. once it went under, it stayed under. Is there something on the line that has to be removed before it can sink as soon as it hits the water?
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Old 04-19-2017, 06:20 PM
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First welcome to the board!

Long time since I've used these type of lines so take the following with a grain of salt as they would say.

Sinking lines went from one to seven, a one a really slow sink, a #7 like a rock. 'Road' my bike down to 'Green Lake' in North Seattle, old fellow waiting for me, row boat. Stroke, stroke storke .. float.

Teenager. He row's, Read to him in the boat. He liked the 'Classic's.' To be, .. or not to be .. that is the question ...

Slow stoke, slow Stroke, stroke, stroke... drift the boat. Rare that Mom and I didn't eat trout that night. Found out later he was a serious-serious money.

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Welcome to the forum,superhunter213.

Loon makes a product called "Sink Fast" that may help.It is a line cleaner in a spray bottle made just for sinking lines.
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Here is a good article on this subject

http://flyfishing-and-flytying.co.uk..._inbetweeners/

Basically not all intermediate lines are the same. Some are designed to sit just below the surface some are designed to go deeper. It also means that a super slow sinking line marked as intermediate may require a minute or two to get to the depth you desire. Some people use slow sink intermediate lines in order to only avoid the wind chop on the surface of a lake.

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Pretty much what Tim said

I just bought a RIO In Touch Sink Tip . Its got a 15' tip that sinks and there are choices such as

S3 means it has a sink rate of 3" per second
S6 6" per second

Im sure Silver or someone more scientific than me can explain mass/density and water dispersion and how line makers translate that to sinking tips
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I purchased an intermediate sinking line recently. First time using it, it seemed to struggle to sink. It slowly sank from the leader end to the rod, being pulled off the surface. once it went under, it stayed under. Is there something on the line that has to be removed before it can sink as soon as it hits the water?
An intermediate fly line will actually float if it is treated with floatant. It is a type 1 sinker which is the slowest and sinks about 1 inch per second.
I have a simple system for calculating sink rates. The type of line is the number of ft. the line will sink in 10 seconds.
So for a type 1 sinking line, approximate sink rate is 1 ft for every 10 second. Type 2 is 2 ft per 10 seconds and so on. It is easy to divide the 10 count into how deep you want to fish. So for a type 2 line, fishing 3 ft deep, count 1 and 1/2 10 counts or 15 seconds.
Type 4 line, 5 ft deep is 12 to 13 seconds. See how easy it is. No dividing inches per second sink rate into number of inches of depth.
It is a quick and dirty method to get you in the ball park and it is easy to remember.
Now back to type 1 or intermediate fly lines. These lines mirror the sink rate of original silk fly lines. Silk fly line would have to be "treated" with floatant when fishing dry and if left untreated or if the floatant was wiped off, the would sink slowly as type 1 lines do.

It may be that the fly line still has some residual coating from the manufacturing process that is acting as a floatant. So I would take the line and put it into some warm water and wash it it with some Dawn to remove any oily coating from the factory.
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