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Old 04-21-2017, 09:58 AM
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I have two spools of medium length backing that if joined would be the perfect length for my fly reel. Is it okay to join two lengths of backing and if so, what would be the best knot for that?
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I personally use a six turn blood knot. Never had an issue.
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2nd Blood Knot. Works best joining same type materials ie. dacron to dacron of similar diameters. Don't think I would advise if tying dacron to say, gelspun backing.



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The amount of backing on your reel is grossly over rated (save to fill it up). Depending upon the fly line it will be 90 to 120 (you can get spey lines up to 150 feet out of the UK) feet .... well leave running down a set of rapids out of this, never got close to the 'knot?'

I can only think of a couple of times .... King Salmon ... no contest as I streight lined and broke him off. Unless I wanted to go for a heck of a swim (which I did once) it's 'game over.'

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I have two spools of medium length backing that if joined would be the perfect length for my fly reel. Is it okay to join two lengths of backing and if so, what would be the best knot for that?
I think the blood knot is the best since it is inline and small so it will go through the guides easily.

Don't worry so much about he strength of the knot. Any backing knot will be a lot stronger than the breaking strength of the tippet or the tippet to fly knot. So the tippet will break off before the backing knot will.
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https://loonoutdoors.com/product/uv-knot-sense/

You could always put a little of the above on the knot to smooth it out and add a bit of insurance against failure.
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I too would and have, for the same size and type backing, employ a 6 or 7 turn (on each side) Blood Knot. Just make sure it is symmetrical with no over lapping coils and full seated...try to break it by hand as a test.

Fred, You are no doubt correct that most of us rarely see very much of our backing. But that "insurance" is not its sole reason for being maximized. Properly loaded with backing, a reels arbor circumference is enlarged (whether conventional of large arbor to begin with) increasing the rate of line retrieval and reducing the propensity for stored line coiling.
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I too would and have, for the same size and type backing, employ a 6 or 7 turn (on each side) Blood Knot. Just make sure it is symmetrical with no over lapping coils and full seated...try to break it by hand as a test.

Fred, You are no doubt correct that most of us rarely see very much of our backing. But that "insurance" is not its sole reason for being maximized. Properly loaded with backing, a reels arbor circumference is enlarged (whether conventional of large arbor to begin with) increasing the rate of line retrieval and reducing the propensity for stored line coiling.
Exactly my point(s) as to 'fill it up.'

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I too would and have, for the same size and type backing, employ a 6 or 7 turn (on each side) Blood Knot. Just make sure it is symmetrical with no over lapping coils and full seated...try to break it by hand as a test.

Fred, You are no doubt correct that most of us rarely see very much of our backing. But that "insurance" is not its sole reason for being maximized. Properly loaded with backing, a reels arbor circumference is enlarged (whether conventional of large arbor to begin with) increasing the rate of line retrieval and reducing the propensity for stored line coiling.
Exactly my point(s) as to 'fill it up.' general 'rule of the thump is to within a 1/4 inch of the reels rim.
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I never join backing...ever
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