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Old 08-10-2013, 05:09 PM
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Default Ross Evolution LT vs Waterworks Lamson Speedster 1.5 Fly

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I am in the market for a 3/4 wt Reel, I really like the two reels listed above.... Price is similar , both seem high quality, anyone have either reel and have an opinion on it?

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Default Re: Ross Evolution LT vs Waterworks Lamson Speedster 1.5 Fly

I am a fan of the original Evolution but not the LT. I have friend who had two LTs, took them to New Zealand the both drags failed on big fish.
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Old 08-10-2013, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: Ross Evolution LT vs Waterworks Lamson Speedster 1.5 Fly

Hmmm.. that is interesting, someone had told me that LT and Original Evolution had the same drag system.
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Default Re: Ross Evolution LT vs Waterworks Lamson Speedster 1.5 Fly

I have no experience with the Speedster, but have used Lamson in the past. I own a Evo LT 2 that has pretty much been relegated to paperweight duty since I favor spring & pawl these days. As I understand it, both the Evo and Evo 2 use the same drag. The difference between the two models is obvious in the machining but due to the nature of the new style frame, they became stronger. I've had no issues with mine, but it has had fairly limited use. I certainly never felt as though I didn't have enough reel, especially for a 4wt.
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Default Re: Ross Evolution LT vs Waterworks Lamson Speedster 1.5 Fly

I have a couple of the LT's and really like them. That being said I use them on 4-6 weights and haven't tested them on any trout over 20". I did use them on the San Juan and they performed well on some larger fish but have heard of drag failures before. Personally mine have always been very smooth and with an occasional greasing have never let me down. I like to balance them with lighter rods.



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I have no experience with the Speedster, but have used Lamson in the past. I own a Evo LT 2 that has pretty much been relegated to paperweight duty since I favor spring & pawl these days. As I understand it, both the Evo and Evo 2 use the same drag. The difference between the two models is obvious in the machining but due to the nature of the new style frame, they became stronger. I've had no issues with mine, but it has had fairly limited use. I certainly never felt as though I didn't have enough reel, especially for a 4wt.
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Default Re: Ross Evolution LT vs Waterworks Lamson Speedster 1.5 Fly

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Greetings!

I am in the market for a 3/4 wt Reel, I really like the two reels listed above.... Price is similar , both seem high quality, anyone have either reel and have an opinion on it?

Thanks You, Cheers!

Charlie
My only experience with Ross Reels is with the Colorado series, but if I were going to purchase a reel with a conical drag, I think I'd go with Lamson. I have many litespeeds I use on 0-6wt rods that have performed flawlessly.
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Default Re: Ross Evolution LT vs Waterworks Lamson Speedster 1.5 Fly

I don't own any Lamsons, but I've heard good things about them. I do have an Evolution LT, and the drag is the same design as the original Evo as well as the Rhythm. The only difference is the LT has machined aluminum parts that replaced some of the plastic parts (drag knob, drag escapement ring, spool release button) on those earlier models. Otherwise, the drag design is the same. In that respect, I think the LT is more robust than the earlier Evo. The added aluminum parts were based on feedback from customers, so Ross was clearly doing their homework.

In addition to the Evo LT, I own a couple of Rhythms, and I have not had any issues.

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Here are some images of the drag system on the Evo LT vs. the older Rhythm:

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The ring with the four screws in it is the drag escapement ring. It is rulon (plastic) on the Rhythm, but machined aluminum on the Evo LT. You can see the difference between the old plastic drag knob on the Rhythm vs. the newer style on the Evo LT, which is machined aluminum.

The only difference between the old Evo and the Rhythm was the number of holes drilled in it. The Evo was lighter than the Rhythm, but cost quite a bit more for the machining. Other than a difference in weight, they were identical.

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Default Re: Ross Evolution LT vs Waterworks Lamson Speedster 1.5 Fly

Ross makes spare spools for USA built models even though they have been discontinued (except for San Miguel). This might be important if you decide that you need other line options in the future.

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