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    Default Re: Worth while to salvage on old, decent blank as a first project?

    Post up some pictures when you start rebuilding it!!!

    I've always debated on whether to strip down a couple old rods I have. Eventually one day I'll do it.

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    Default Re: Worth while to salvage on old, decent blank as a first project?

    Quote Originally Posted by robert_nguyen View Post
    Post up some pictures when you start rebuilding it!!!

    I've always debated on whether to strip down a couple old rods I have. Eventually one day I'll do it.
    DO IT!

    Did some basic web research, and they are taking very good care of me here - about the only thing that hasn't been offered to me is to hold my hand while I am trying this!

    I went from hesitant to feeling pretty confident pretty quickly. When the reel seat popped off, I was convinced that this is a very worth while abd do-able thing.

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    Rip Tide,

    Thanks again. That looks just about perfect.

    I think I am looking for Lewis & Clarke looking for something I remember out of my childhood - Gudebrod Classic Twist Threads.

    Orange/black should tie in well with the black hardware and the brown rod finish with amber-ish highlights in the sun.

    You mentioned getting multiple tiptops before. I listened... plan is to get the one I think I need and the next 2 sizes up and next two sizes down. I/m pretty sure I will be using them at some point.
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    Default Re: Worth while to salvage on old, decent blank as a first project?

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    Default Re: Worth while to salvage on old, decent blank as a first project?

    What kind of rod is it ?.... that would cut back on the number of tip-tops that you need to consider. I think that you can count on it being around a 5 or a 5.5, but it won't be a 4 or a 6.5.
    Also, silk thread is a good investment for a cane rod but really unnecessary for graphite or glass and a waste if your using that high- build finish
    You're better off with nylon.
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    Default Re: Worth while to salvage on old, decent blank as a first project?

    Not sure what kind of rod it is, other than old and nothing special. Phone number on the rod sack means I was using it prior to '94. I think I remember having a Pflueger or a Fennwick back then, but my memory for stuff like that is not so great.

    What's kept me away form rod building in the past are all the finicky, nit-picky details/options. I barely know enough to ask an intelligent question on the subject.

    I am assuming that more wraps of a lighter thread is stronger over all, but that the 'A' nylon is more than sufficient and just less smooth in appearance.

    Is there a better coating to use?

    Better Question: Given a generic graphite rod, getting a new seat and guides, what would you use?
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    Default Re: Worth while to salvage on old, decent blank as a first project?

    You want regular size A nylon thread and your "generic graphite rod" (IM6) will probably use a tip-top of around a size 4.5 or 5.
    The high-build finish is fine. There's nothing fancy about it.

    I have both a Fenwick and a Pflueger rod of that age. Big difference in quality.
    I payed $22 for that Pflueger and $150 for the (top of the line/closeout) Fenwick.
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    Default Re: Worth while to salvage on old, decent blank as a first project?

    Bet you can't guess which end of the quality range we're talking about - bad reel seat, lower end cork, guides spiraled nigh 1/4 rotation around the blank. It is MI6 though and feels to be moderate/fast - most all the flex is in the top 1/3 of the rod.

    Not looking for fancy nor pretty. Goal is for effective.

    Thanks again for all your help Rip Tide.
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    Default Re: Worth while to salvage on old, decent blank as a first project?

    Just finished stripping of the old guides, windings and such from the rod. That IS a lot easier said than done. Not actually so 'hard', but definitely takes so concentration and a good thumb nail. Boiling water to go after the tip top now. All that is left on there is a bit more finish, the old cork handle minus on ring and the old winding check.

    Trying to decide if I should get those off too and start with a clean old blank.

    QUESTION: Is it possible or wise to go after the blank with an uber fine rubbing compound or even a soft wet sand with 1500 grit?
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    Default Re: Worth while to salvage on old, decent blank as a first project?

    Quote Originally Posted by random user View Post
    Just finished stripping of the old guides, windings and such from the rod. That IS a lot easier said than done. Not actually so 'hard', but definitely takes so concentration and a good thumb nail. Boiling water to go after the tip top now. All that is left on there is a bit more finish, the old cork handle minus on ring and the old winding check.

    Trying to decide if I should get those off too and start with a clean old blank.

    QUESTION: Is it possible or wise to go after the blank with an uber fine rubbing compound or even a soft wet sand with 1500 grit?
    It will be tough to get a uniformed finish if you sand it and you run the risk of exposing the fibers if you sand too far. I would stay away from sanding the blank. The tip top should have been secured with ferrule cement, all you need is a cigarette lighter to heat it and pull the tip off.
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